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  1. #10741
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gwenorai View Post
    TBH, Viera looks like that because they trimmed the parts of them that look barbaric. The females are supposed to be armed with claws, on both the feet and the hands. And their wood warden armour looks nothing like the outfit that Fran is wearing. The wood wardens that are female in FF12 look like actual amazonian warriors.
    I would have liked this soo much better than what we got, honestly!
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  2. #10742
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alleo View Post
    [...]That does not sound fierce to me, it sound more like the males are just better at shooting animals. (I mean realistically you just need one shot if it hits fataly) I remember a side quest where she was saved from a male but said that they have gone hiding again because of the WoL coming to the scene.

    In the end female Au Ra can take on enemies that are at a whole different scale and yet they dont look that fierce either.
    Fierce in quotes, as most associate fierce to mean a narrower sense of everything it actually encompasses, like bloodthirstiness, cruelty or hostility, though still not limited to what I've just listed here. A shot does not necessarily mean fatal - animals and people alike have survived wounds that should be fatal, like behind shot through the head, especially with a more basic projectile such as an arrow.

    Again, most apply fierce as a term in a much narrower sense than what it actually means. A diminutive Auri female is no less fierce than her towering male counterpart, especially in the case of Xaela.
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    [...] You complain and complain and complain.

  3. #10743
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gwenorai View Post
    Yip, here ya go. They're still 'Viera' in style, but you can tell that's a warrior. One of the Centurio Hunters in FF12 is wearing clothes like this as well. Fierce as heck, she stands there in a power stance looking real fierce.

    I still hate those feet. They look like deformed yams or sweet potatoes.
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  4. #10744
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gwenorai View Post

    @Alleo
    As for the comment regarding them changing it. Of course, they can, literally, the only thing that describes them is one supposed comment from a female Viera saying they're 'mad' and 'muscular' - which I'm hunting down to find. And of course the lore from FF14. Which doesn't have a descriptive in their physical appearance. Only their cold personality. They shoot to kill.

    Anyway, we know they're there and we know they're having children. Since a pixie literally said they're scared of Vii children. Perhaps, just perhaps we might see one. Seeing as they seemed to have lessened their workload. Only one dungeon next patch, we will see. They're adding in a lot more lore going by the previous stream they had.

    I'm unsure why people have such an aversion to them being fierce. The female Viera as they are now can be described as fierce.
    I am not sure if you need to do the work to search for that quote if its not something in FF14. As long as they have not shown us a male or describe it in FF14 any other game should not count as a way to show how they are.

    I also dont have anything against them being fierce. (Which kinda just mean aggressive anyway) I just dont like it that some posters seemingly see being fierce as a confirmation to them needing to be big and muscular. We have fierce female Au Ra (look at Sadu) and yet they are small and teenager-like in their look.

    In the end there is right now nothing in the lore or ingame that would go against many of the very different wishes (the only one confirmed to not be the case is them looking more like children) on how the males should look and its a fantasy game too, so I see no reason why people cant just simply write down their version of it without being seen as someone that hijacks a race.

    Edit: And again I am not sure why we are using FF12 armor here (and honestly it does not look barbaric to me) because we already have a starter set for Vieras ingame and it looks more like they are ready to go to a model show than to fight all the time in a forest.

    Quote Originally Posted by JunseiKei View Post
    Fierce in quotes, as most associate fierce to mean a narrower sense of everything it actually encompasses, like bloodthirstiness, cruelty or hostility, though still not limited to what I've just listed here. A shot does not necessarily mean fatal - animals and people alike have survived wounds that should be fatal, like behind shot through the head, especially with a more basic projectile such as an arrow.
    I am not sure why shooting an animal with one arrow (and no matter if some can survive wounds or not, most will probably die if they are hit in certain areas) counts as aggressive, bloodthristy, cruel or hostil. They are just shooting them down. I would even say that being able to kill an animal with one arrow is even kind since the animal does not have to suffer for long.

    I mean hunters in our world that kill animals with one shot wont count as fierce?
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  5. #10745
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alleo View Post
    [...]

    I am not sure why shooting an animal with one arrow (and no matter if some can survive wounds or not, most will probably die if they are hit in certain areas) counts as aggressive, bloodthristy, cruel or hostil. They are just shooting them down. I would even say that being able to kill an animal with one arrow is even kind since the animal does not have to suffer for long.

    I mean hunters in our world that kill animals with one shot wont count as fierce?
    Anyone can swing a sword. Not everyone swings a sword the same way, even under the same conditions (IE: hunting or defense). If you can't catch the meaning, then there's nothing more that can be said.
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    [...] You complain and complain and complain.

  6. #10746
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    Quote Originally Posted by JunseiKei View Post
    Anyone can swing a sword. Not everyone swings a sword the same way, even under the same conditions (IE: hunting or defense). If you can't catch the meaning, then there's nothing more that can be said.
    And if I am a sword master does not make me fierce. (As in the way of them being hostil, bloodthirsty and other more negative forms of that word)

    So him shooting a beast with one arrow just means that this one male is a master with the bow. Seeing how even Lalas can become great archers I see no reason to have this as an confirmation that males are a certain way. It simply just means that the male was able to kill it swiftly and go away silently afterwards.

    Again: Anyone can shoot a gun, a hunter in our world shooting it to one hit kill a deer would seemingly not count as him being fierce. He is just good at it.
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  7. #10747
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    "Fierce" actually means to be like really fashionable. Like as a model.

    Don't be surprised to see some male viera on the runway.
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  8. #10748
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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    "Fierce" actually means to be like really fashionable. Like as a model.

    Don't be surprised to see some male viera on the runway.
    I've been seeing "fierce" being thrown around so much that it's just been giving me an urge to draw a m!Viera with lipstick and great eyeliner and feathers and some killer high heeled boots. Thank you
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  9. #10749
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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    "Fierce" actually means to be like really fashionable. Like as a model.

    Don't be surprised to see some male viera on the runway.
    It's more recent slang than the original meaning ("having or displaying an intense or ferocious aggressiveness.") but I could see it!
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  10. #10750
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    Quote Originally Posted by WhiteArchmage View Post
    I've been seeing "fierce" being thrown around so much that it's just been giving me an urge to draw a m!Viera with lipstick and great eyeliner and feathers and some killer high heeled boots. Thank you
    please do it.
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