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    Quote Originally Posted by LalaRu View Post
    If this "inconsistency" is what makes people being punished for their very bad behavior, I welcome it.

    The "they punished A but not B" argument is silly from the start. If a robber didn't got caught, it doesn't give you license for robbing too and then complain if you got caught and punished.
    I'm actually confused by what people are saying is inconsistent though.

    1. The person punished was a verified streamer. It isn't some rando they found berating someone with the names visible.

    2. They don't ban RMT on videos. Uhh didn't you guys remember that there were several Poser accounts trying to sell Gill using FFXIV's name?

    3. They haven't banned before (that you know of)./This is the first ban they've done regarding off site behavior - See 1. and 2.

    4. I've seen some guy selling RMT in PF. Report them? Please remember RMT means REAL MONEY TRANSACTIONS. Some guy selling gil clears for Ultimate actually doesn't fall in this category unless you are living in a real life economy that Gil is actual currency.

    So at this time, it's basically not a slippery slope argument. If you're monetizing off FFXIV, take some care for how you engage your players. Also players, that goes for those who feel in their right to harass a host. You hate Mr Happy, Xenos Athars that's great, don't do it in stream or with a verified account. I think SE has to feel to take things more seriously, I mean a guy in their country blew up an animation studio because...reasons. They were already in a rough position with people screaming about dataminers and accusing and harassing people who first cleared The Ultimate Alexander.

    (should note, not saying I disagree or was presenting an argument against you - just supporting it).
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    Quote Originally Posted by QT_Melon View Post
    4. I've seen some guy selling RMT in PF. Report them? Please remember RMT means REAL MONEY TRANSACTIONS. Some guy selling gil clears for Ultimate actually doesn't fall in this category unless you are living in a real life economy that Gil is actual currency.
    People pretty much never sell clears for gil with how easily it's obtained.

    The reason they conduct transactions outside of the game is specifically because real money is involved, though it's unlikely SE can actually do anything about them because they won't leave any information on Discord that proves without doubt that the contact is the same person with the ad listed in PF and they won't reveal who the ones doing the clears are until a transaction is actually made.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KageTokage View Post
    People pretty much never sell clears for gil with how easily it's obtained.

    The reason they conduct transactions outside of the game is specifically because real money is involved, though it's unlikely SE can actually do anything about them because they won't leave any information on Discord that proves without doubt that the contact is the same person with the ad listed in PF and they won't reveal who the ones doing the clears are until a transaction is actually made.
    Okay so this again falls back to point one of my post you're quoting from. VERIFIED TWITCH account is the key here.
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