Quote Originally Posted by NealSnow View Post
I'm not misrepresenting anything. I mean I never knew using clemency once meant I can't tank anymore how interesting! I must be godtier if I can use clemency and still tank!.

You don't wish to continue because you know you can't factually back up your claims. You merely have "well this is how I expect every group to handle this" while ignoring that gear really really matters. If I'm a mim ilvl tank in a dungeon and pull wall to wall sure a capped healer can keep me alive but again what if both are min? He'll not to mention all the wipes I've saved as a rdm, casting a cure that allowed the healer to catch back up. Casting a single vercure, doesn't stop me from being a dps able to dps. Tossing a clemency on myself or another does not inhibit my ability to tank. Emity is so easy know that a single gcd on clemency won't devastate the run.
If you or you healer are on min ilvl you don't pull wall to wall in the first place, nobody can really do that and expect a smooth pull without making the life of the entire party a hell for no reason.

Clemency and vercure are badly designed tools that can only be the last resort of each job, a competent PLD will use everything what it have first before use clemency, the DPS is more important since killing the treats faster will help more to the healer that you using clemency, secondly a competent PLD will check the healer gear first and pull proportionally to avoid any situation using clemency since is more faster and better pull small groups and burn them that use the spell, and last the PLD can be out of mana BCS he just used his requiem cast aoe rotation which is what it should be doing.

In resume using clemency/vercure means you or you party members failed on so many stuff to even allow that situation and the only acceptable situation is when the healer dies for whatever mechanic/reason and the only sustain available is you.