Quote Originally Posted by NealSnow View Post
And idc if I'm toxic, or deemed toxic tbh. I see stupidity I call it out for what it is. I have zero tolerance for ignorant behavior such as this thread and yes, denying that plds should use clemency ever is blatantly ignorance. I don't believe it's ignorance born of not knowing better, but ignorance of "I know for a fact clemency should never be used"

Plus you ignored the question of whether or not you should use clemency in a raid if it meant saving it.
I don't intend to keep going back and forth on this. You're arrogantly misrepresenting the discussion. Never does anyone have the clairvoyance of a carefully laid out perfect situation that can be devised on paper. Using clemency is very complicated especially in the chaos of a mass pull. There's not a lot of really good tells if a healer is struggling in the midst of chaos. A lot of healers let a tank's HP fall knowing they can top them off fast so the healer can focus on dps. It's almost imposible to know if a healer has blown all their cooldowns and to see how much they're spamming heals without taking focus off the task at hand which is tanking and avoiding aoes. Sometimes even hallowed ground isn't fast enough to come out in an emergency and it's instant. On top of that the pld's magic rotation is highly favored for aoe so they might not even have the mp available.

For players who aren't high end raiders expecting them to do their job right and babysit a healer on top of that is extreme. Basically it's a skill that has few real uses and requires near psychic clairvoyance to use properly. To insult people for saying focus on tanking is nuts.