Male Viera as a playable character! show your support

[Alleo]

Aye, it's true that FF12 isn't FF14 - but the loremaster of the game specifically said they were taking the lore from FF12. Not that it matters much because the only thing they mentioned was that they are muscular, and I need to double-check that. They could indeed be smaller than their females, or they could be taller and/or bigger. Evidence of them taking their lore straight out of FF12 is here;

Well from that quote they said that they take in "as much as possible" so its still open how much that is. They could easily use most of the ff12 for female Vieras and introduce more FF14 only lore for the males.

In the end there is no true description of them in FF14. As long as their look is not comfirmed I see no problem with people wishing on how they look and I dont understand that one hijiacks a race because of that. There is simply nothing there to base it on and no matter what we write SE will decide it on their own anyways.

I would like to point out that there was a side quest in Rak'tika Greatwood where it was implied that a male Viera took out one of the beastkin, a Caracal I think, with a single arrow. The female that was accompanying you remarks that usually it takes a few arrows to bring down that beast. A female Viera wouldn't have a reason to stay in the shadows or otherwise hide themselves, this was also during her own hunt (I think, having trouble recalling if that was a previous quest in the chain or not) and is markedly "fiercer" than the usual number of attacks required to get the kill, also fulfilling the more competitive trait that was mentioned elsewhere (can't recall if that in regard to XIV or XII, but fits either way).

That does not sound fierce to me, it sound more like the males are just better at shooting animals. (I mean realistically you just need one shot if it hits fataly) I remember a side quest where she was saved from a male but said that they have gone hiding again because of the WoL coming to the scene.

In the end female Au Ra can take on enemies that are at a whole different scale and yet they dont look that fierce either.

[Senn]

That does not sound fierce to me, it sound more like the males are just better at shooting animals.

It was stated that female viera are just as formidable as viera men. It goes to show that you can still look like a pretty model, and still be formidable and fierce in a video game.

[Gwenorai]

It was stated that female viera are just as formidable as viera men. It goes to show that you can still look like a pretty model, and still be formidable and fierce in a video game.

Yeah, but this Viera was actually surprised* it was fell with one arrow. Though that seems like a want to just build up the fact this mViera killed multiple of those beasts with one arrow a shot, saved the girl and then was quick/fast enough and stealthy enough to escape the area as soon as he saw us. Which, given the fact WoL/WoD has god-like a sixth sense to hone in on people who are watching/looking at them - is impressive.

*Regarding that fViera - she was surprised it was fell with one arrow because she only knew of one type of person who could do such 'handy work' - a mViera. She thought they had all perished.

We - the WoL/WoD can't even take down those beasts with one hit.

The women are described as just as formidable, but the females also have a sporty/model like body. The males should be pretty/handsome by default. Otherwise, all fViera somehow take after their mothers. Which is weird for a race that is hellbent on having the men being the strongest of the strong in endurance and survivability. The women-only allows the 'master alpha males' to breed. That's not something I doubt they'll retcon giving the previous statement where they said that matsuno helped with that and they're not about to spin it to their own directive. Which is good really. Matsuno's idea of a mViera is likely to be the one we will get, if at all.

@Alleo
As for the comment regarding them changing it. Of course, they can, literally, the only thing that describes them is one supposed comment from a female Viera saying they're 'mad' and 'muscular' - which I'm hunting down to find. And of course the lore from FF14. Which doesn't have a descriptive in their physical appearance. Only their cold personality. They shoot to kill.

Anyway, we know they're there and we know they're having children. Since a pixie literally said they're scared of Vii children. Perhaps, just perhaps we might see one. Seeing as they seemed to have lessened their workload. Only one dungeon next patch, we will see. They're adding in a lot more lore going by the previous stream they had.

I'm unsure why people have such an aversion to them being fierce. The female Viera as they are now can be described as fierce.

[Senn]

I'm unsure why people have such an aversion to them being fierce. The female Viera as they are now can be described as fierce.

I don't think anyone here is averse to them being called fierce. Some of us are just saying that the term "fierce" doesn't necessarily describe their appearance.

Also, like I said, male and female viera are both equally as strong. Yet the female viera look like victoria secret models. They are just as fierce as the males, but they don't look barbaric like some people suggest the males look like. The females have bodies similar to elezen, and faces similar to miqo'te, and that's probably what the males will look like as well. Slim, handsome, and elegant. That specific male viera that shot the arrow was either abnormally strong, or it was just a tongue in cheek cutscene to show that male viera are out there and always watching.

[Gwenorai]

I don't think anyone here is averse to them being called fierce. Some of us are just saying that the term "fierce" doesn't necessarily describe their appearance.

Also, like I said, male and female viera are both equally as strong. Yet the female viera look like victoria secret models. They are just as fierce as the males, but they don't look barbaric like some people suggest the males look like. The females have bodies similar to elezen, and faces similar to miqo'te, and that's probably what the males will look like as well. Slim, handsome, and elegant. That specific male viera that shot the arrow was either abnormally strong, or it was just a tongue in cheek cutscene to show that male viera are out there and always watching.

I think barbaric is literally in their style. The clothes the vii are wearing are tribalistic, which could be also described as barbaric. They don't have to be chewing at peoples throats. It's just a synonym for primitive; which fur-like skin clothing, such as loin clothes would fit under. It's why if you google Barbarian, you're going to see muscular men wearing loincloths and furs. He can still move with elegance or have an air of elegance and yet still come across as a cold killer who has spent all of his life simply 'surviving' and 'killing' - we can't ignore the fact their lore strictly has them as men who are constantly doing that.

A man, can still look primitive in regards to what he wears and still look handsome and elegant. But if you think about it, does the imagery of a very well kept male who's wearing top of fashion spring to mind when you read about them. Nah. Stick an Elezen in the Vii tank clothes and go warrior - there. An elegant barbarian. Which, is a really nice look BTW, you get similar imagery if you go DRG.

TBH, Viera looks like that because they trimmed the parts of them that look barbaric. The females are supposed to be armed with claws, on both the feet and the hands. And their wood warden armour looks nothing like the outfit that Fran is wearing. The wood wardens that are female in FF12 look like actual amazonian warriors.

[VirusOnline]

TBH, Viera looks like that because they trimmed the parts of them that look barbaric. The females are supposed to be armed with claws, on both the feet and the hands. And their wood warden armour looks nothing like the outfit that Fran is wearing. The wood wardens that are female in FF12 look like actual amazonian warriors.

Do you have a picture to this ?

[Senn]

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I'm not talking about their clothes, I'm talking about their bodies. Male viera most likely aren't going to look like big beefy barbarians.

And maybe Vii and Viera have different wood warden outfits. Not that clothing is relevant to any of this imo

[Gwenorai]

Do you have a picture to this ?

Yip, here ya go. They're still 'Viera' in style, but you can tell that's a warrior. One of the Centurio Hunters in FF12 is wearing clothes like this as well. Fierce as heck, she stands there in a power stance looking real fierce.



Here's another image; you can tell the civilians from the warriors Eruyt image. Be warned; you know how SE art can be; the viera civs are wearing the 'thong' armour so there's some booty.

I'm not talking about their clothes, I'm talking about their bodies. Male viera most likely aren't going to look like big beefy barbarians.

And maybe Vii and Viera have different wood warden outfits. Not that clothing is relevant to any of this imo

Well, good. I don't think I ever said I want them to the size they're beefy barbarians. I expect them to be well developed and have a defined muscle development. More toned than an elezen, but not as beefy as a Highlander.

And the Vii and Viera most def have different armours; mainly as the Vii don't seem to have civilians. They're all warriors. Happens when your race is dying out I suppose. Well, the ones that didn't leave their villages anyway. But then again, the Vii there took up another 'culture' the Ronkas after they originally lost their home and were taken in by that specific civilisation/ That culture was very 'aztec', while the Viera haven't been intruding upon. Not that it matters me thinks, other than Vii men and Viera men will probably have different clothes.

[Tabbs]

Yip, here ya go. They're still 'Viera' in style, but you can tell that's a warrior. One of the Centurio Hunters in FF12 is wearing clothes like this as well. Fierce as heck, she stands there in a power stance looking real fierce.

I wouldn't personally call this fierce in the sense of war or battle. It looks more like catwalk fierce or bedroom fierce. Her silhouette is literally a short dress or hourglass -- complete with "big boss woman" stereotyped shoulder puffs and even a thigh window. The kind of fierce some users are trying to describe for male Viera definitely doesn't conjure up the same image as what I'm seeing here on this female Viera.

If we're ok with putting a male viera in a similar outfit to this and calling it fierce, then you have my stamp of approval lol.

[VirusOnline]

Yip, here ya go. They're still 'Viera' in style, but you can tell that's a warrior. One of the Centurio Hunters in FF12 is wearing clothes like this as well. Fierce as heck, she stands there in a power stance looking real fierce.



Here's another image; you can tell the civilians from the warriors Eruyt image. Be warned; you know how SE art can be; the viera civs are wearing the 'thong' armour so there's some booty.

Hmmm, color me impressed. This set looks like a good alternate racial gear compared to the female highlander copy paste.
Haha, yeah I've seen that link before. But by the gods, the other gear looks good.