I'm not excited about the future patch at all. Just one dungeon?

[Shurrikhan]

Note, my response isn't just solely for you, but also somewhat to anyone else who might be reading, so I'm not saying that you're necessarily saying anything, just giving some comments.

And, of course, everything depends on implementations. And like I said, I'm not good at thinking up ideas, and really would rather not and just leave it to the devs.

Since it was quoted from me, I assumed it was directed at me. My mistake.

And that's fair. As a general response, I'd just like to point out that it's far less invasive to others' discussion when issues people have with some system are at least basically defined rather than sweep broadly over any and all implications the term may hold for different people. E.g. 'I don't like when people chuckle obviously and strictly at other's misfortunes' as opposed to 'I dislike chuckling', or 'I'd rather not have even more rush-rush spam content that we pretend is difficult but is really just stratifying' as opposed to 'I don't like Mythic+'.

(Not generally: So, thank you for defining what all your preferences so discussion could work with them in mind rather than forcing related discussion to either end early or ignore your preferences entirely. Seriously, it helps a ton.)

[VenKitsune]

We're actually getting two trials for 5.2, not just one.

Well yes...A normal mode, and an extreme. What's new? Thats how its always been.
Not only that but it was marked "(Tentative)" - Does that mean the name is tentative? Or is it not 100% we're even getting a trial lol.

There are currently 73 dungeons in the game. 71 if you take out Praetorium and Castrum Meridanium. That's a LOT of dungeons.

Most of which aren't relevant.
There are currently 46 raids in the game, 97 if you include all difficulties.
So does that mean we dont need any more raids anymore?

No, of course it doesn't. This is a budget cut, plain and simple. And considering well over 2/3rds of the player base is casual in nature, they've basically reduced the ammount of casual content in each patch by 50%

[Mansion]

Well yes...A normal mode, and an extreme. What's new? Thats how its always been.
Not only that but it was marked "(Tentative)" - Does that mean the name is tentative? Or is it not 100% we're even getting a trial lol.

The Ruby Weapon (Normal and Extreme) and a "secret" possibly MSQ related trial: that's 3 trials.

[Duskane]

the time spent not making the other dungeon could also be use to make the gear at least a bit more unique instead of rehashing or rearranging older gear SB dungeons also saw this happen alot.

[BloodRubyXII]

I am.

Only waited about 7 frigging months for another PvP season.

[Kisshu]

The Ruby Weapon (Normal and Extreme) and a "secret" possibly MSQ related trial: that's 3 trials.

Wasn't it presented the same way for the secret trial as Kugane Ohashi was?
Would be nice if we're getting more Hildabrand trials, 2.x had three trial fights in the questline and then we had to wait till Kugane Ohashi for the next.

[linay]

This is a budget cut, plain and simple.

It may or may not be a budget cut to dungeon development as it remains to be seen if there is anything done in place of that on the PVE end, but it's probably not a budget cut when considering the game as a whole, considering everything else that we're getting.

[Ceasaria]

If we could revisit those dungeons which doesn't received a Hard version, but in the way of Baldesion Arsenal, it would be great.

[Nyxn607]

I am ok with 1 dungeon per patch. Currently the only reason I even run the dungeons is to level alt jobs, and cap on tomes.

I am excited to see what the new trials will entail, will they tune them more toward savage level difficulty? Will the implement new, rarely seen mechanics? Will they just be another trial like usual?

[reivaxe]

Most of which aren't relevant.
...
This is a budget cut, plain and simple.

Funny, this type of thinking on behalf of the player base is prob a factor in them looking at this huge focus for man power and resources and thinking "yeah, perhaps we can lessen the amount of dungeons we make and use that energy for something else".

It happened before ... they use to make side paths and tricky "gotta read stuff" dngs. Those earlier dngs were waaaay harder and even if you enjoyed them there were sometimes patterns or elements to them that you would forget more often than not. You can go back and play them if you forgot how much more demanding they were. But they looked at the playerbase and made changes to how they make these dngs as a result.

And given the nature of this game you can not call that a budget cut, lmao! How is it a budget cut? Unless you know for a fact that they let go of people as a result of this.
Cause if they haven't done a mass layoff then the people who would be making the models and settings and textures and lighting and animations and concept art for the no-longer-happening dungeons are still there, working on something else. Either making something else come faster or making something happen that they couldn't do before.

What's that something else? Wont know til we see it. It's shifting and moving resources if they keep their staff the same size, not a budget cut.

I've been very open about my thoughts that we are just sadly never gonna see Female Hrothgar (or male buns I guess) cause Yoshi has said in more ways than 1 and VERY directly at times that they simply can not keep making content at the pace they are and support more character models than they have now (races). And dngs are a pretty big use of modelers and character animators and so on, it's a big part of their content cycle. Though I still don't think it likely to happen I can now see a future where they reveal them and talk about how they were able to support them after "reallocating some resources ...". Or perhaps we will see some other kick ass things in the future that used that men power, like updated CC and new animations or more glam sets that are brand new or more housing items and other side things that people love, idk.