Recent Developments of TOS Actions Taken

[Driavna]

While I can understand people being concerned about SE suspending accounts based on things that happen outside the game, I also don't see a problem with how SE responded to this. When someone who is possibly considering playing FFXIV goes into a stream and sees a streamer repeatedly bashing someone for their skills or play style, that can turn the potential player away from the game forever. What game development company *wants* to have customers who act like the streamer did? How is that good for the community or for the business? Rants like that should be kept private.

It's not difficult to avoid a "slippery slope" or "grey line" when it comes to being in groups or avoiding suspensions or bans. Just don't act like an ass toward people. Think before you speak. Don't buy or sell gil. Don't sell your account. These are basic concepts which is why the vast majority of players are never suspended or banned.

If you are going to enforce the TOS outside the game you do it for all cases.

[goob]

If you are going to enforce the TOS outside the game you do it for all cases.

If you see something that you think violates the TOS, report it.

[Driavna]

If you see something that you think violates the TOS, report it.

Like with the people selling clears or confessing having bots but since the conversation was on Discord can't be used as valid proof because "third party program"?

Edit: Let me add that the streamer, like many others, was beyond stupid and deserve a punishment coming his way from Twitch and not from SE, since this person never used the chat.

[goob]

Like with the people selling clears or confessing having bots but since the conversation was on Discord can't be used as valid proof becouse "third party program"?

Was it reported? Could SE identify using game data that the person used bots or sold clears?

In the case of the video, the evidence of the TOS violation was blatantly obvious.

[Driavna]

Was it reported? Could SE identify using game data that the person used bots or sold clears?

In the case of the video, the evidence of the TOS violation was blatantly obvious.

Why for one thing in-game data is needed but for the streamer the video was enough?

Is not obvious enough that people selling content but requesting to join discord to discuss pricing are doing it for real money?

[Alaray]

Was it reported? Could SE identify using game data that the person used bots or sold clears?

In the case of the video, the evidence of the TOS violation was blatantly obvious.

Yeah 'cuz they link to their discord username and # in the PF.