Quote Originally Posted by Eloah View Post
I think you are misinterpreting what I mean. Remember the Ascians have the Echo too. It's not our Echo being used its Emet-Selch's. He's using it along with his creation magic to make it tangible. This is brought up when we talk with Hythlodaeus about how he is aware that he isn't real and just a memory.
That isn't really anything to do with the Echo. He's just drawing on his memories, and recreating things as he remembers them - you don't need the Echo for that.

I don't see how it's "fiunctionally acting the same way" at all. It's giving the same end result, perhaps, but in a completely different way. The Echo (as we experience it) is a vision triggered by specific, uncontrollable circumstances, witnessed by us alone. The illusions of Amaurot are solid and tangible to anyone there, and permanent for as long as the magic holds.

We're not seeing his memories directly, but a manufactured recreation of what he once saw - potentially with some artistic license. (Did he *really* ascend to the heavens and defeat Therion? Or is he just giving us an impressive view?)