Crossover events and breaking immersion

[Alleo]

The more permanent additions, like the aforementioned fanservice raids, with ties to past games or other franchises have been more or less changed and/or repurposed to fit into the game's lore so I'm not sure why it's breaking your immersion. We have Crystal Tower from 2.XX, which is from FF3, pulls a lot of lore from 3 and mixes it with Allagan. Eureka is from FF3 as well, and Hydaelyn's version has ties to XI as far as I can tell (i didn't do much Eureka in SB, but Absolute Virtue is in there :P).

Yes raids like the crystal tower are fine because they are made to fit into the world and do tell their own stories. Ivalice was already on the edge for me because it was imo too much retelling and not much new stuff. Omega was even worse because it was just a tournament with pure fanservice bosses that they even did not explain at all.

Nier is from a whole different franchise (and company) with its own style. IMO right now it does not fit at all. Its like bringing pokemon in this. They could try and explain to us that they are from another dimension (like most of it is..) but it still make it jarring for me.

I have no problems to callbacks like Biggs and Wedge. Or even if the primals like Garuda are from other games because they at least look different and have their own unique story in this. (Just like with chocobos and moogles) But using bosses from other games without changing them at least a bit is just bad imo.

[Valic]

Yes raids like the crystal tower are fine because they are made to fit into the world and do tell their own stories. Ivalice was already on the edge for me because it was imo too much retelling and not much new stuff. Omega was even worse because it was just a tournament with pure fanservice bosses that they even did not explain at all.

Nier is from a whole different franchise (and company) with its own style. IMO right now it does not fit at all. Its like bringing pokemon in this. They could try and explain to us that they are from another dimension (like most of it is..) but it still make it jarring for me.

Incorrect, they did explain it. While I am with you on it being fan service bosses, Omega traveled across stars and dimensions and has been around for eons to listen to stories of powerful wizards and entities that should've ended the world and their tale's hero. He uses them specifically to gauge how strong the WoL is and how those heroes from those dimensions defeated their "big bad guy". He literally says he collected the information off it all and bases every fight off that information.

As for your problem with Neir, the most I can say is "get over it" because tbh... I've never played Neir and I feel like all of this feels just fine integrating into the game. Not only that but like the other comment, they haven't explained anything yet, so its kinda jumping the gun. We have mammets and magitek humanoids, mutants, so on.... It's not illogical to see mechanisms and humanoid looking robots in this game when we already see them plenty. I almost wanna say the only reason its distracting is if you know/played the games enough to relate it over the FFXIV setting. Personally I see the WoL looking at this thing like its the most alien thing he's seen yet, top it off we're already on another star that has lalafells being called dwarves.




Also, to anyone complaining about the Regula from FFXV still. I made you this.


Once they slap on monster faces or call it a mutant or something along the lines of fantasy, no one cries about it breaking their fantasy game. But a carriage with wheels in a world of magic and magitek engineering, FORBIDDEN. Ok. Ignore the mutant car/motorcycle because it's "a monster made from mutant science experimentation and fits in the lore" but stare in awe and cry at the "mechanical device that can transport people by using elementary functioinality such as wheels, friction, and a common motor just like most magitek devices do as is" AND HOW THIS TOTALLY DOESN'T BELONG AT ALL, YEAP. It's just that jarring clearly... Or perhaps you're just relating the other series over FFXIV far too much. I played FFV a bit, but as I did the event for the car, it was just me in the FFXIV world seeing a weird stranger bring weird things here that I had to kill and Cid happen to find a way to make the car he fixed up for the lad because he's literally a magitek engineer.

[Gula]

Big snip.

Since you brought up not playing Nier.

NieR Gestalt/Replicant in terms of aesthetics would fit entirely within the realm of XIV. Earth had it's own Calamity as it were, and the villages you visit could be added as in game zones, and no one would so much as blink outside of the a special zone which, well, we actually got a similar treatment with Shadowbringers.

Automata is the same universe, same continuation of story. It just so happens to be set thousands of years in the future. If anything, aesthetically, it's only the YoRHa stuff that clashes for modernism, even in its own game. Forest Kingdom, Amusement Park, Desert Ruins, all things that really wouldn't be that different from things we have already seen on Novrant actually. Amusement Park leaning more on Crystarium architecture choices.

It's a Yoko Taro story. We're getting thrown in at the deep end with no explanation for the first act; the second act will have some shocking twist or horrible revelation; and the third will have all the info to actually make sense of things (ish).

Let's not forget the three Drama CDs, manga, five novellas and orchestra concert only dialog readings.

[TheMightyMollusk]

Let's not forget the three Drama CDs, manga, five novellas and orchestra concert only dialog readings.

Yeah, but those won't make it out of Japan anyway. Even though they have vital backstory and world-building info.

[Gula]

Yeah, but those won't make it out of Japan anyway. Even though they have vital backstory and world-building info.

Still counts and canon. If you didn't know, the English voice actors for 9S and 2B did a reading of the orchestra dialogs. In character, with the music. It was very well done. And I was positive the DoD3 novellas were translated officially. It's been some years, so probably not. Anyhow, they count. Just because it doesn't make it to the west doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

See Kingdom Hearts Final Mix before being added years later for PS3/4.