What's the point of ranks?

[Nephera]

i dont think because the reward is mediocre that its not something to do..

[viion]

Harlequin's is useless to your CON in what way? Dodore Doublet is useless to your ARM in what way? I know there are those kinds of people who cannot be impressed easily, but you take the cake. Maybe you're exaggerating your taste a little and just using poor choice of words, but really what you're saying is you are hard to please and that's fine.

There is progression and a few events regarding NMs. Honestly, the only thing I find fun to do lately is low manning or soloing Roaming/Faction NM. Other than that, all there is to do is progress ranks and wait for content.

Harlequin is useless because it wont increase my ability on my mage, most stats are broken and I've already hit MND cap so my heal wont increase, and i dont even have that good gear lol.

Also Dodore is useless because I can wear any other gear, make all the armor the game has and even that armor is rubbish and saturated so much that no one would buy it anyway. So my arm is just a "repair" class now, and i dont need a dodore doublet to repair. Thus it is useless.

If you needed dodore doublet to make some pimp armor that was extremely difficult and required that doublet sure, but there is nothing, i can do it all naked if i wanted lol.

Not about pleasing its just those armors are useless, they provide no game changing or big improvement over what I currently have lol. in XI you'd get NM gear for a specific reason, KA for the 6% haste, or go get AF2 for TH+4 and Fastcast/Refresh stuff.

in XIV your nm gear gets you a little bit more stats here n there, which ultimately make no difference at all.

[gifthorse]

[SIZE=7]It's called a pointless Time Sink.[/SIZE]

[Xatsh]

[SIZE=7]It's called a pointless Time Sink.[/SIZE]

That is the definition of a MMO.

[Kaedan]

That is the definition of a MMO.

So, so true!

[BruceyBruceyBangBang]

Harlequin is useless because it wont increase my ability on my mage, most stats are broken and I've already hit MND cap so my heal wont increase, and i dont even have that good gear lol.

Also Dodore is useless because I can wear any other gear, make all the armor the game has and even that armor is rubbish and saturated so much that no one would buy it anyway. So my arm is just a "repair" class now, and i dont need a dodore doublet to repair. Thus it is useless.

If you needed dodore doublet to make some pimp armor that was extremely difficult and required that doublet sure, but there is nothing, i can do it all naked if i wanted lol.

Not about pleasing its just those armors are useless, they provide no game changing or big improvement over what I currently have lol. in XI you'd get NM gear for a specific reason, KA for the 6% haste, or go get AF2 for TH+4 and Fastcast/Refresh stuff.

in XIV your nm gear gets you a little bit more stats here n there, which ultimately make no difference at all.

You'll be eating your words when they simplify stat formulas. Just sayin'

[Zkieve]

I hope you are referring to "physical level" it is true , they are pretty meaningless.
Rank is your level, saying a lv 15 can do the same of have experienced the same as a lv 50 is silly.

[viion]

You'll be eating your words when they simplify stat formulas. Just sayin'

Most likely, when they make stats good and I see big improvements to current gear, cant say for dodore because its to easy to make gear now but maybe harlequin, then maybe I will change my mind, that doesnt mean that currently ranks are useless.

And whos to say even when they make stats good that Harl be any good?

lets compare the body with Vintage Robe
Difference: +7 int, same mnd, -57mp -2def, +5 mdef, +2 mag resist, -12 mag craft. +1 resi

its not exactly MIND BLOWING is it lol. INT is useless because anythign endgame just sucks to dmg and nukes suck in general. I can knock off 2k nukes naked or geared on things i farm/fight often.

If when they fix stats that +7 int is not going to be as extreme as it should be, it wont make my 1k dmg become 1.2kdmg is it. And personally I'd rather keep the MP.

I hope you are referring to "physical level" it is true , they are pretty meaningless.
Rank is your level, saying a lv 15 can do the same of have experienced the same as a lv 50 is silly.

Its not silly, what do you do at the 2 different levels? Look at it like this

Rank 15 - Oh lets do some leves! Lets kill the leve mobs, Yay!
Rank 50 - Cant do leves, lets kill mobs for no gain!
Rank 45 - Oh lets do some leves! Lets kill the leve mobs, Yay!

Every rank is identical. And the point we've mention is even at rank 50 the only thing you can do better is NM's which we're now debating on weather they're useless or not. And even then you can do these at 35 lol.

[gifthorse]

That is the definition of a MMO.

Well if it's fun it's not entirely pointless. But if it's boring, and there are no in-game goals beyond getting gear, and if the journey is just as crap as the destination, then it's pointless.

The whole progression system is just so f**ked up and out of balance with the content (or lack thereof)

[Xatsh]

Well if it's fun it's not entirely pointless. But if it's boring, and there are no in-game goals beyond getting gear, and if the journey is just as crap as the destination, then it's pointless.

The whole progression system is just so f**ked up and out of balance with the content (or lack thereof)

Have to define fun though

I have tried Rift, WoW, Aion in my opinion they are all far more boring then XIV currently. Maby not at endgame but I cannot stomach the game to get that far, quest based leveling is just horribly boring. Other feel the same way about group grinding.

So what specifically is fun, that everyone agrees with. The answer is simple absolute nothing.

And btw the Goals in every mmo in existence has been to either progress through the story or Get gear, gear being the thing that keeps ppl playing for a long duration. Most ppl do story line to get gear....