Results 1 to 10 of 62

Thread: Ranged in 5.1

Hybrid View

  1. #1
    Player
    Divinemights's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2016
    Posts
    2,039
    Character
    Altria Pendragons
    World
    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Ninja Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Ahzuran View Post
    I honestly don't understand how SE is so bad at balancing this aspect of the game. Ranged DPS have to do so much to get kills yet you pick up something like DRG and you can get 5 kills in a row by hitting the same two buttons over and over again.

    Do they even test their so called "balance changes" before they go live?
    They balanced with a more developed meta in which as fit to the core concept of the Frontline.
    Japanese never had issue with Ranges in a team-oriented large scale PvP; in matter of fact, it is often Black Mage becomes a mobile canon.
    For us, we are unable to adopt to this meta because of individualism; people cares about individually over team success.
    It is pretty easy to see pretty much 90% of ranges you encountered are dong it wrong.
    Even until this day, I am still no clue why range would try to fight a meele not only in close range; also an open flat space instead of use terran as advantage.
    (0)

  2. #2
    Player Theodric's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2013
    Posts
    10,051
    Character
    Matthieu Desrosiers
    World
    Cerberus
    Main Class
    Reaper Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Divinemights View Post
    They balanced with a more developed meta in which as fit to the core concept of the Frontline.
    Japanese never had issue with Ranges in a team-oriented large scale PvP; in matter of fact, it is often Black Mage becomes a mobile canon.
    For us, we are unable to adopt to this meta because of individualism; people cares about individually over team success.
    It is pretty easy to see pretty much 90% of ranges you encountered are dong it wrong.
    Even until this day, I am still no clue why range would try to fight a meele not only in close range; also an open flat space instead of use terran as advantage.
    Most of FFXIV's players come from the NA and EU region, I believe. Even though it's a Japanese game, it's not really feasible to expect NA and EU players to suddenly overhaul their approach to PvP to match the Japanese model. The irony is that it probably could have been possible back in the days where PvP was far more niche and had a small but very committed following.

    These days it's mostly full of people just farming wolf marks for glamour and other items. They don't really care about winning since they get experience and wolf marks either way.
    (2)

  3. #3
    Player
    BloodRubyXII's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2013
    Location
    Völs am Schlern, Italy
    Posts
    1,007
    Character
    Owa Owa
    World
    Odin
    Main Class
    Ninja Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    Most of FFXIV's players come from the NA and EU region, I believe. Even though it's a Japanese game, it's not really feasible to expect NA and EU players to suddenly overhaul their approach to PvP to match the Japanese model.
    When it's a JMMO and the JP community are far more active in PvP than we are in the west, yeah it is.
    (1)
    FanGathering Mail Rail London Nov 2019 (✓)
    Lavigne#0001
    PvPaissa Staff - https://discord.gg/sUy86UC
    Leader of Reign Community (2004-Present)

  4. #4
    Player Theodric's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2013
    Posts
    10,051
    Character
    Matthieu Desrosiers
    World
    Cerberus
    Main Class
    Reaper Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by BloodRubyXII View Post
    When it's a JMMO and the JP community are far more active in PvP than we are in the west, yeah it is.
    It's not feasible since it's not going to happen. I'm sure the development team are well aware of that fact which is why they're so quiet about PvP related content and changes. They know a lot of the changes won't be popular in the EU/NA side of the fence and even when there's a massive backlash against something there's radio silence in response.
    (1)

  5. #5
    Player
    Divinemights's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2016
    Posts
    2,039
    Character
    Altria Pendragons
    World
    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Ninja Lv 100
    If any range still complaining in this new mode, you should be realizing that you have a serious problem that you need to address. The advantage gain by Ranges because of terrain structure is very evident. If you still find yourself dying a lot, you will just need to stop playing this PvP like you did in WoW.
    (1)

Tags for this Thread