The coppied Factory vs SHB canon

[SannaR]

There are some for the normal modes where it doesn't say, but then in the hardmode section it goes X calls on those same adventurers or like in Haukke hard adventurers who had extensive experience against the unholy beings.

[TheMightyMollusk]

Several Stormblood duty entries in English get very tongue-in-cheek about conveniently having adventurer friends nearby whenever you need them, but it's pretty clearly just the localization team poking fun at it. Especially for Bardam's Mettle and Susano.

[Alleo]

Okay so the 2nd Lore book doesn't say anything about how our fights with Susano or Lakshmi happened.

Oh so you have the second lore book? If so could you please quote these two? I sadly dont have that book but it would be nice to know how they write it in there. If they again dont state any kind of adventurer group then I firmly believe that we do all of the primals at least solo (and a lot of dungeons probably too..at least those that go before a trial) Or do you mean with that sentence that they dont even appear in that book?

[SannaR]

Oh so you have the second lore book? If so could you please quote these two? I sadly dont have that book but it would be nice to know how they write it in there. If they again dont state any kind of adventurer group then I firmly believe that we do all of the primals at least solo (and a lot of dungeons probably too..at least those that go before a trial) Or do you mean with that sentence that they dont even appear in that book?

For Suano it just says we helped in him getting summoned. It doesn't say how we faught him same as for Lakshmi. The book only says how she came to be and how she made the Ananta be able to reproduce without a male counterpart. We would need a third book to see if it would say otherwise.

[RyuDragnier]

If we go under the assumption that the WoL was from 1.x before entering ARR, it makes perfect sense how they're solo'ing all this stuff...they started ARR at level 50, with the vast majority of their abilities intact. It's possible that canonically for the Solo stuff the logbook says, our level is majorly higher than almost every threat we face (perhaps 10 levels higher at all times), with a few requiring actual powerups (see Nidhogg) or extra help (see Steps of Faith) to overcome. ShB can still follow this formula despite us having the Scions with us, simply because we canonically solo Titania and Innocence, as none of the Scions are there.

[Alleo]

For Suano it just says we helped in him getting summoned. It doesn't say how we faught him same as for Lakshmi. The book only says how she came to be and how she made the Ananta be able to reproduce without a male counterpart. We would need a third book to see if it would say otherwise.

Thanks for the information. Strange how they changed it with that book since the first one was a very detailed retelling of the whole MSQ.

@RyuDragnier: Funnily the lorebook does take it as "canon" that the WoL is a survivor of the meteor (and the only one) so one could say that in the overall canon story that would not have "levels" the WoL is from 1.0.

[SannaR]

Thanks for the information. Strange how they changed it with that book since the first one was a very detailed retelling of the whole MSQ.

@RyuDragnier: Funnily the lorebook does take it as "canon" that the WoL is a survivor of the meteor (and the only one) so one could say that in the overall canon story that would not have "levels" the WoL is from 1.0.

Those are just from the dungeon, Kojin and Ananta sections. There is a the story so far part that I or someone else would have to look over.

The Lord of the Revel: Fortunately, the Warrior of Light and the Echo-blessed companions he had the wisdom and foresight to bring with him rose to the occasion and slew the great kami.

The Lady of Bliss: However, her failure left the Warrior of Light with no recourse but to meet the primal in combat- ably abetted by his cadre of Echo-blessed adventurers.

[SannaR]

It seems we also must have gone through Ala Mhigo with friends as the book says: But it was not this day, for Zenos yae Galvus, legattus of the XIIth Legion imperial viceroy of Ala Mhigo, was ultimately defeated by the Warrior of Light and his companions.

It also mentions Echo-blessed comrads for Tsukuyomi.

[Alleo]

Those are just from the dungeon, Kojin and Ananta sections. There is a the story so far part that I or someone else would have to look over.

The Lord of the Revel: Fortunately, the Warrior of Light and the Echo-blessed companions he had the wisdom and foresight to bring with him rose to the occasion and slew the great kami.

The Lady of Bliss: However, her failure left the Warrior of Light with no recourse but to meet the primal in combat- ably abetted by his cadre of Echo-blessed adventurers.

Thanks for the information. So it seems that with the two lore books, we do ARR and HW mostly solo and somehow in stormblood we have all those echo blessed adventurers with us that we bring on foresight. :'D (That get not a single recognicion in story..) Man those people would have been nice when Zenos beat us in Rhalrgs reach. Also that kinda means we indeed only beat up Zenos with the help of others. Not sure why he would kill himself if he was only defeated by group...he would still be undefeated in solo combat.

Not a fan of this but if that is really in the lore book like that then I have to accept it. x)

[Crushnight]

Thanks for the information. So it seems that with the two lore books, we do ARR and HW mostly solo and somehow in stormblood we have all those echo blessed adventurers with us that we bring on foresight. :'D (That get not a single recognicion in story..) Man those people would have been nice when Zenos beat us in Rhalrgs reach. Also that kinda means we indeed only beat up Zenos with the help of others. Not sure why he would kill himself if he was only defeated by group...he would still be undefeated in solo combat.

Not a fan of this but if that is really in the lore book like that then I have to accept it. x)

I treat them as such

Susano - How in the seven hells did 7 random adventurers get through the Red Kojin stronghold all the way to their vault, past Alisae and Lyse to help us, I can't see it being plausible so i chalk to gameplay/story segregation

Lakshmi - similar to Susano but more believable to have aid due to stopping at The M tribe's home we could have gotten people there for it just unlikely in my eyes.

Zenos - spoiler for 5.1

I take it as we had help up to before Zenos where our aid either died or went off somewhere, this is confirmed by Estinien and Gaius, stating how we the WoL just barely beat him, they never state we had help or anything and when it comes to lore Newer stuff overwrites old so 5.1 negates the lore book 2.