The coppied Factory vs SHB canon

[Stepjam]

The scions are all kinda busy atm with their own things.

[Stepjam]

That was meant to be a reply to an earlier post, now it looks like a nonsequitor
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[Iscah]

That was meant to be a reply to an earlier post, now it looks like a nonsequitor
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You need to click "reply with quote" if you're responding to a post. "Reply" does nothing to link your post to the other one; I'm not really sure why it's an option.

You can edit the quote in later - go to the post, "reply with quote" to get it, cut and paste it into your original post.

[Kuroka]

Its not open air, its underground and just looks like open air.

[LineageRazor]

Its not open air, its underground and just looks like open air.

Nah, it could easily be open air, and still remain undiscovered, even with Airships being common. The location is in the mountains, and the Airship technology on the First may simply not have the ability to achieve sufficient altitude to explore them.

There's sufficient grounds for suspension of disbelief either way you choose to look at it. Personally, I think "open air, but in an a valley inaccessible to the First's technology" is the much more likely explanation, as the alternative requires you to ALSO try to figure out how they're illuminating it all to the point where healthy trees can grow, not to mention how and why trees wound up planted in this underground complex.

You just have to ignore gameplay versus ingame story. We simply dont really fight on three sides with that one boss, we are standing there with 2P and beating him up together with her. There are no 23 other adventurers, its just us, the dwarves and 2P.

Aw, man, I was gonna post something sarcastic to poke fun at the "the WoL is canonically solo!" crowd, but there's no point now!

Anyway, among the WoL's myriad other talents, she/he's a talented leader, able to network an extensive network of fellow adventurers to call upon for anything too difficult to handle alone (probably does all this networking while you're logged off). Linkpearls and devices similar to the Aetheryte Pendulum allow them to come to your side at a moment's notice.

Of course, there's no firm canon for this, either, but it makes a heckuva lot more sense than imagining a WHM Warrior of Light drubbing Nidhogg to death with a stick!

[Lord_Umbra]

Nah, it could easily be open air, and still remain undiscovered, even with Airships being common. The location is in the mountains, and the Airship technology on the First may simply not have the ability to achieve sufficient altitude to explore them.

There's sufficient grounds for suspension of disbelief either way you choose to look at it. Personally, I think "open air, but in an a valley inaccessible to the First's technology" is the much more likely explanation, as the alternative requires you to ALSO try to figure out how they're illuminating it all to the point where healthy trees can grow, not to mention how and why trees wound up planted in this underground complex.


Aw, man, I was gonna post something sarcastic to poke fun at the "the WoL is canonically solo!" crowd, but there's no point now!

Anyway, among the WoL's myriad other talents, she/he's a talented leader, able to network an extensive network of fellow adventurers to call upon for anything too difficult to handle alone (probably does all this networking while you're logged off). Linkpearls and devices similar to the Aetheryte Pendulum allow them to come to your side at a moment's notice.

Of course, there's no firm canon for this, either, but it makes a heckuva lot more sense than imagining a WHM Warrior of Light drubbing Nidhogg to death with a stick!

Well if we go true canon WoL has never been a WHM, the Heavensward WoL was Dragoon & ShB WoL is currently a Dark Knight. Though Solo WoL makes more sense to me than waiting for 23 people who can't teleport like us to travel all that distance especially in time a needed quickness, just imagining for all content WoL setting up camp outside waiting for these friends to arrive, especially with that 1 year time bubble.

[Berethos]

Nah, it could easily be open air, and still remain undiscovered, even with Airships being common.

There's also how the next "open air" area after the first (which would look just like what it is to those from the air - dilapidated old metal ruins likely not worth venturing into) is in a place called the Deep Stratum, which strongly suggests that we've gone pretty far down (which also jives with what we do in the raid, first going down those pipes and then jumping down again after Hobbes to reach more of the factory). Even if there is open air above us, you can't see it, and anything looking down into that area would just see a white mist/dust.

[DaBigDorf]

N:A Spoilers:

23 people

deleted their save file so we could succeed

[ReviaInfantry]

Why Scions are not joining:
a) that kid is trying to meddle in the First's politics.
b) that sister is trying to make a working thing instead of a flying pig.
c) that uncle is doing Exarch stuffs.
d) that cat girl has a village to tend to plus also doing lesser Exarch stuffs.
e) that father is bringing her daughter to chill out in a cool airship.

How do you get other 23 people.
a) some got shanghai'd when they hear the amount of boom those two dwarfs caused
b) 7 of em came because they got summoned by Exarch during Hades fight and because of his incompetence, now they cannot go back.
c) 8 of em are Eulmorians who lost their job thanks to your liberation, now they forced their way into your expedition to make quick buck.

[Erendis]

Why Scions are not joining:
a) that kid is trying to meddle in the First's politics.
b) that sister is trying to make a working thing instead of a flying pig.
c) that uncle is doing Exarch stuffs.
d) that cat girl has a village to tend to plus also doing lesser Exarch stuffs.
e) that father is bringing her daughter to chill out in a cool airship.

I think they are not joining because we never told them about it. And we went to fight a potential threat to the first with just a couple of kids (who can't really fight apart from throwing some bombs) which is completely ridiculous...

I really do hope that yorha lore will improve because currently it is utter nonsense.