The coppied Factory vs SHB canon

[SannaR]

Ok so I can mentally go with the whole raid as us and 2P beating up everything with the dwarves mostly just watching. The only fight where I have a soooo how does this work canonically is the one where we're actually seperated by groups. None of our Scion freinds are there and as far as we know no adventuring friends are able to travel to the first like we can. So, my question is how are we supposed to think of that part of the raid with how the story portrays the WoL's time in the first being a mostly solo stint?

[JeanneOrnitier]

Presumably we picked up adventurers from Clan Nutsy, I guess.

[RicaRuin]

We contacted our buddy the Exarch and he called upon 23 heros. Or such.

[QT_Melon]

Obviously if you open that one door.... (after the raid is done and you look for the DATA) ...maybe that's who helped you? XD

[E4EO]

Iirc after reading a few quest/dungeons descriptions, the lore regarding most MP content is that the WoL (you the player) just calls up their adventurer buddies to run a dungeon, trial, etc. The other 3, 7, or 23 players are just friends to the WoL, this goes the same way for the other players, you're the adventurer buddy and their the WoL, I think the only exception to this is when you fight Hades and the exar summons other WoL's from other shards to help you.

So I think it goes like this, sure the WoL could (probably not) solo the copied factory, but wouldn't it be more fun/easier to bring along a few buddies?

[TheMightyMollusk]

The First has adventurers of its own. Maybe we call on some of them for help.

[Enkidoh]

The First has adventurers of its own. Maybe we call on some of them for help.

^This. A pseudo-adventurer system seems to be in place on the First, which isn't surprising at all given the Exarch's identity (who would naturally know about Eorzea's adventurer system and would have easily introduced such a concept to the First accordingly, given his 100 year head-start he had on us), and our actions throughout SHB's story continously inspired others to actually fight for their world's survival instead of just laying down and waiting for the end.

And as Ardbert and his friends showed, people were, and still are, being awoken to the Echo in the First as well, although they don't seem to be aware as to what it truly is like we are, having had the benefit of the Scions and their predecessor the Path of the Twelve's knowledge to hand.

So it's clear story-wise we can draw upon support from 'local adventurers' to help us during duties on the First, without having to suspend belief that much.

[Jandor]

The First has adventurers of its own. Maybe we call on some of them for help.

Makes sense, after all, what sort of adventurer would even consider turning down a request to go on an adventure with the Warrior of Darkness?

[Raldo]

There's not really any reason why the Scions couldn't have tagged along.


With that said, it's better if you don't try to rationalize everything. The first thought I had when I entered this duty was "You're telling me that these mines/caves immediately lead out into a giant open-air factory, and nobody knew about it despite the existence of airships and flying mounts? Hah!"

[TheMightyMollusk]

There's not really any reason why the Scions couldn't have tagged along.


With that said, it's better if you don't try to rationalize everything. The first thought I had when I entered this duty was "You're telling me that these mines/caves immediately lead out into a giant open-air factory, and nobody knew about it despite the existence of airships and flying mounts? Hah!"

To be fair, it's in Eulmoran territory. Vauthry's army probably discouraged anyone else from flying nearby, and the machines probably took care of anyone who actually got that close. No survivors means no witnesses.

Also, y'know, flying machines ain't cheap. And they've had a century of sin eaters trying to kill them all, so there were more immediate concerns.