Last edited by Omymy; 11-27-2019 at 06:57 AM.
I think this is more due to the fact that our characters don't have weirdly flat butts anymore when wearing the new 2P legs. People are going to be making glamour around it, and showing it off for a while since it is new
No, people would afk dance in town in little to no clothes before butt armor came out for viera or everyone else. Again, this is not a purely female character issue, I have seen male characters numerous times dancing around just as naked in towns. People just like to pick on the probable dudes playing those female characters. I have probably seen more half naked men in FFXIV than any other MMORPG. Actually, in SWTOR there was this megathread on the forums where guys would edit in male leathers, and lingerie on their characters.. didn't really see them in game though.
What exactly does skin tone have to do with anything, and I would say it's the other camp that is actually bringing up race or skin tone more often than not. The fact that you are saying white, blond haired, and blue eyed makes me think you have another agenda on your mind.
Because you can't try and hang on the "fantasy game" "fantasy setting" "I'm not trying to self insert cause with fantasy I can be anything I want to be" but then literally make a clone of any ol average irl white chick. The logic just isn't there.What exactly does skin tone have to do with anything, and I would say it's the other camp that is actually bringing up race or skin tone more often than not. The fact that you are saying white, blond haired, and blue eyed makes me think you have another agenda on your mind.
It has nothing to do with "the other camp" (as I'm opposite of the camp you're thinking of) it's just pure ol common sense.
But that's their argument that "I don't want to look at male butt all day" during any type of content you shouldn't be that zoomed in. Even when just afking around town, I personally am not that zoomed in to where my character's butt is center screen...it's weird.
I mean that would make sense if they weren't in bikinis and will only play female characters, at that point there's a bit more to it. Dudes that mix it up, have themes in mind, certain RP things etc aren't the type of dudes that's being discussed here. I used to know a few guys that would play nothing but female characters no matter the game, if it was a gender locked game and their class wasn't female they wouldn't play. These are the type of dudes I'm talking about.Some people just care about how their character looks, and there's nothing wrong with that. Not everyone who makes a character of the other gender wants to beat their meat to it.
Trying to say people that play lalafells and dress them normally are the same as dudes that will only play female characters and put them in bikinis or use nude mods aren't even remotely the same.I can't play a lala but I'll never call you a pedo for playing one. Just food for thought.
In the end, males that will only play female characters to play "sexy dress up barbie" are just weird imo and is why a lot of women just side eye dudes in general.
Because you can't try and hang on the "fantasy game" "fantasy setting" "I'm not trying to self insert cause with fantasy I can be anything I want to be" but then literally make a clone of any ol average irl white chick. The logic just isn't there.
It has nothing to do with "the other camp" (as I'm opposite of the camp you're thinking of) it's just pure ol common sense.
Editing cause I see you replied to my post.. so disreguard this one. Making a reply to your recent post.
I want to clear the lala point by saying that's pretty much what you just did. I know not every player playing a lala is a pedo, BUT there are people who fall into that group, just like there are men who fall into the group you're calling odd. I'm only saying not ALL of them do that. And was only making a point, also as a side, NOONE is playing what they actually are as lala's, miqos etc don't exist in real life at all. So by that logic.. we're all lying here.Because you can't try and hang on the "fantasy game" "fantasy setting" "I'm not trying to self insert cause with fantasy I can be anything I want to be" but then literally make a clone of any ol average irl white chick. The logic just isn't there.
It has nothing to do with "the other camp" (as I'm opposite of the camp you're thinking of) it's just pure ol common sense.
But that's their argument that "I don't want to look at male butt all day" during any type of content you shouldn't be that zoomed in. Even when just afking around town, I personally am not that zoomed in to where my character's butt is center screen...it's weird.
I mean that would make sense if they weren't in bikinis and will only play female characters, at that point there's a bit more to it. Dudes that mix it up, have themes in mind, certain RP things etc aren't the type of dudes that's being discussed here. I used to know a few guys that would play nothing but female characters no matter the game, if it was a gender locked game and their class wasn't female they wouldn't play. These are the type of dudes I'm talking about.
Trying to say people that play lalafells and dress them normally are the same as dudes that will only play female characters and put them in bikinis or use nude mods aren't even remotely the same.
In the end, males that will only play female characters to play "sexy dress up barbie" are just weird imo and is why a lot of women just side eye dudes in general.
You say it's odd.. WHY? Why is it odd people pick other genders to use in a video game. Even if its because they want to drool at their character... it's THEIR character. If they want to run around in bikinis who cares? I will never understand the judgement people have over others in areas where it doesn't matter what they do at all. The only thing we as players should be worried about as far as other people is.. their skill level. And that has NOTHING to do with what they are glammed or gendered too.
But that's actually not what I did at all and w both know that. There aren't groups of people that will only play lala in every game because lalas aren't in every game lol.
That's not really my point at all...nor a point I even made or implied.Hell, whats wrong with picking something that appealing? And that is different to many different people. I for example like midlanders, Elezens and miqo's. While you may like lalas, I can't play a lala but I'll never call you a pedo for playing one. Just food for thought.
Because when you're that sex driven that you can't even play a simple game without that being at the forefront of your mind...how is that not weird? It's the same as dudes that talk about porns starts constantly and even make guild names after porn stars. Get help?You say it's odd.. WHY?
Everyone judges, it's human nature to judge and it's nothing wrong with it. In my personal experience the dudes that will only play female chars aren't dudes I like playing with as things always turns sexual, weird, and creepy.I will never understand the judgement people have over others in areas where it doesn't matter what they do at all.
It depends on what the person judging does, if someone with my opinion only talked about and complained about guys like you, I'd agree and say it's not that deep. However this is a thread about this topic so it's normal to chime in.
You're using the word "strawman" wrong here. I listed many reasons, nude mods were ONE not the ONLY.
Last edited by Nims; 11-27-2019 at 09:43 PM.
You know what I mean tho. Yeah Lalas aren't in every game BUT all a lala is really is a very small young looking character. And those are in almost every game. Is it the best example.. no and I'll freely admit that. But my point was that blanket judgement is covering ALOT of people who aren't those pervs you were talking about. I'm not sitting here clanking out turn tables with my hand cause my character is some pink haired miqo.But that's actually not what I did at all and w both know that. There aren't groups of people that will only play lala in every game because lalas aren't in every game lol.
That's not really my point at all...nor a point I even made or implied.
Because when you're that sex driven that you can't even play a simple game without that being at the forefront of your mind...how is that not weird? It's the same as dudes that talk about porns starts constantly and even make guild names after porn stars. Get help?
Everyone judges, it's human nature to judge and it's nothing wrong with it. In my personal experience the dudes that will only play female chars aren't dudes I like playing with as things always turns sexual, weird, and creepy.
It depends on what the person judging does, if someone with my opinion only talked about and complained about guys like you, I'd agree and say it's not that deep. However this is a thread about this topic so it's normal to chime in.
I dunno, I might be taking too much offense to this and I'll admit to that. But it hits close to home cause as I think I mentioned I have friends who do nothing but complain that I use female characters in mmos. And they hate my reasons, which are men/dudes/guys are boring as hell to me. I'm a guy in real life and have NO interest in looking at them for prolong periods of time no matter how zoomed in or out the camera is. If I have a choice I'll always pick the more appealing option. And not because I'm some incel that can't real life. And I'm willing to bet there are alot of guys like me then the pervs who makes all of us look bad. I'm not saying they don't exist... but every time this topic comes up it's ALL people bring up. It gets old.
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