[Suggestion] Remove the role restrictions on the YoRHa gear?

[LaylaTsarra]

What happens when I suck at Dragoon for example? Or when a Paladin doesn't like playing casters but wants the dress? There's nothing wrong with a bit of inclusivity and this would definitely please a lot of people. If you don't like it, you don't have to buy it, but more options never hurt anyone!

So you don't get to wear it... it's pretty simple. Sorry but homogenizing the gear so everyone looks the same doesn't make for diversity which I think is a good thing. You're entitled to your view and I think the dev's feel the same way I do.

Does that mean I'm allowed to play a role I suck at and be a leach thats cared on by my group members so I can wear the gear I want ?
In that case ice mage here I come !

You can play any role you like and maybe work a bit to learn how to play. I bet you'd make an awesome ice mage though.

[Crushnight]

I see the role restrictions as a necessary evil, my reasoning is if there is no role restrictions on gear why bother making 7 sets per 24m/8m/dungeon it would be unnecessary and just more coding, use more art assets etc and there is no telling where they would go if that happened.

Aetheryte earrings are already in game which change stats based on job so it is well within their technology to do so with other gear pieces, and i don't know about you but i rather still have 7 sets that may have variations on look than a single set, which puts way more pressure to be pleasing to the individual.

[Fawkes]

Sorry but homogenizing the gear so everyone looks the same doesn't make for diversity which I think is a good thing. You're entitled to your view and I think the dev's feel the same way I do.

Why'd they make the tank and healer YoRHa gear look the same then?

[JohnSpawnVFX]

So you don't get to wear it... it's pretty simple. Sorry but homogenizing the gear so everyone looks the same doesn't make for diversity which I think is a good thing. You're entitled to your view and I think the dev's feel the same way I do.



You can play any role you like and maybe work a bit to learn how to play. I bet you'd make an awesome ice mage though.

How does massively increasing glamour options for people leads to honogeneizing how everyone looks? And news flash: everyone already looks the same: like 2B.

Sounds to me like you're just trying to dictate how people look. Who died and made you fashion and diversity police?

[Aragogo]

So you don't get to wear it... it's pretty simple. Sorry but homogenizing the gear so everyone looks the same doesn't make for diversity which I think is a good thing. You're entitled to your view and I think the dev's feel the same way I do.

Homogenise: to make uniform or similar. (https://www.dictionary.com/browse/homogenise)

Correct me if I'm wrong but how does giving us more options result in homogenisation? All tanks wearing the same chest piece is homogenised. Every tank wearing the chest-piece they like is unique to each player.

I see the role restrictions as a necessary evil, my reasoning is if there is no role restrictions on gear why bother making 7 sets per 24m/8m/dungeon it would be unnecessary and just more coding, use more art assets etc and there is no telling where they would go if that happened..

Oh no, don't get me wrong - I absolutely agree with that! I love more gear options for each class but in this case, I think an exception could be made. Tanks and healers already share the same model (at least in the female version) as well as the Ranged DPS and NIN/MNK (At least the top halves). It's an exception that could benefit everyone. Adding a currency could increase the playability of the raid and it is a collaboration, so exceptions can be made!

[LaylaTsarra]

Sounds to me like you're just trying to dictate how people look. Who died and made you fashion and diversity police?

Sorry my opinion differs from yours. Oddly enough the developers seem to think gear differences are important and as such they actually make different gear for different roles. How dare they dictate how you look.

[Cidel]

I don't understand why people are against this? Especially since - again - the gear in this raid isn't necessarily distinct for every role. So what's the issue?
One of the most painful and frustrating aspects of glamouring is finding pieces of gear that work perfectly together until the role restriction rule rears its god-awful head and you can't wear them because they are locked to different jobs.
I get there's the whole "job identity" thing, but that argument falls flat on its face when gear sets get reused and reshuffled again and again.
If we have the requisite classes leveled we should have the freedom to mix and match.

I agree with you 100% and think most non-artifact armor should be free to use as glamour as well, but I think most of us know deep-down the reason why they don't is so they can reuse these armor models as easy reskinned/dyeable armor for "All jobs" to pad out rewards and crafting in future content. Just look at the craftable/dyeable Void Ark raid tier look-alikes, the 'all-job' skyrat/pirate craftables and nearly everything that came from Eureka lockboxes just to name a few...


No matter what excuse they say for not wanting to unlock role restrictions on glamour gear (lolBLMusingaGreatAxe), that's probably the real reason.

[Celef]

Sorry but homogenizing the gear so everyone looks the same doesn't make for diversity which I think is a good thing.

But on the contrary.
The moment you lift the glamour restriction, you open à box full of things that can be used together, giving us way more options to not look all the same beacause everyone is wearing 2B's dress because it's the only one that is not locked.
Take a look at Rift system, I can mix every piece I ever got to create a look that no one else would have thought about because they did not like some of the pieces I used.
Here, we are stuck with archetype glamour and lvl 1 so, basicaly....almost everyone use the same pieces...
(did a roulette this week end, the 3 other persons wore the exact same outfit, 2B's)

they actually make different gear for different roles.

72 lvl set for physical dps
https://fr.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...m/2d70f3af88c/
https://fr.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...m/594f71e9bb0/
https://fr.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...m/dda3bf4d435/

A recolor from a previous green caster outfit from SB

Or should I mention this "serie"
https://fr.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...m/0845dfb2dae/
https://fr.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...m/1e79b32d6ab/
https://fr.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...m/4c1d3428861/

"Inspired" by a previous 24 man raid ?
Plus, considering most of the lvling outfits are just the same piece but with a different color....when they are not just recolor of previous set....

We all look the samed because
- SE reu-use previous design
- We do not have liberty at all regarding what we can wear

[Aragogo]

I agree with you 100% and think most non-artifact armor should be free to use as glamour as well, but I think most of us know deep-down the reason why they don't is so they can reuse these armor models as easy reskinned/dyeable armor for "All jobs" to pad out rewards and crafting in future content. Just look at the craftable/dyeable Void Ark raid tier look-alikes, the 'all-job' skyrat/pirate craftables and nearly everything that came from Eureka lockboxes just to name a few...


No matter what excuse they say for not wanting to unlock role restrictions on glamour gear (lolBLMusingaGreatAxe), that's probably the real reason.

I don't agree with weapons being unlocked and with most gear being unlocked for all classes, but an exception could/should be made here, given that this gear is fairly plain in style and doesn't have any specific class signifiers. Unless all tanks must wear puffy shoulders at all times.

[Celef]

I don't agree with weapons being unlocked and with most gear being unlocked for all classes, but an exception could/should be made here, given that this gear is fairly plain in style and doesn't have any specific class signifiers. Unless all tanks must wear puffy shoulders at all times.

Naaaaaah, they just keep tanking in bikinis and pig suit, whil on the other hand we are served with the "imersion" excuse to not open the gate of glamourland