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    Quote Originally Posted by linay View Post
    I agree with the idea, I just don't think it's enough from personal experience.
    So then instead of changing the topic, start a new thread. Your suggestion has nothing to do with ilevel, and has more to do with punishing people for leaving any duty whatsoever, whether it's a good idea or not. People get annoyed at derailing usually, so I'm not sure why this thread is an exception.

    And it's certainly enough to solve the problem of getting LotA every single day for a week. That's a 1/9 chance, which is pretty bizarre unless someone's manipulating the odds. I, unlike these other people, would like to play content that doesn't put me to sleep. I know they're afraid of even a shred of challenge, but I'm really sick of the same duty that everyone wants to do but somehow can't actually grasp the mechanics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doozer View Post
    So then instead of changing the topic, start a new thread.
    My suggestion depends on your suggestion. It doesn't need a new thread as it's a response to your suggestion and it's not something I'm advocating independently. If you don't like it, that's fine, but I can still make my opinion known based on your suggestion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by linay View Post
    My suggestion depends on your suggestion. It doesn't need a new thread as it's a response to your suggestion and it's not something I'm advocating independently. If you don't like it, that's fine, but I can still make my opinion known based on your suggestion.
    The problem is that it's derailing the topic to insist on penalizing people for leaving, when that's not what the original topic is about. You can go right ahead and say it ("I can still make my opinion known"), but I'd like it if the thread stayed on topic. People will just ignore my original point in order to just keep the conversation going, which I'd rather not happen.

    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra View Post
    i can get more experience by running the Pixie Beast Tribes than I do from running Alliance.
    Then don't queue for alliance raid roulette while unequipping items. Simple as that. If it's so unfun, boring, too long, etc., then don't drag everyone else down too. I haven't seen a 70 raid since before ShB launched. I think I've seen one or two 60 raids. It's always the lowest and easiest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doozer View Post
    Then don't queue for alliance raid roulette while unequipping items. Simple as that. If it's so unfun, boring, too long, etc., then don't drag everyone else down too. I haven't seen a 70 raid since before ShB launched. I think I've seen one or two 60 raids. It's always the lowest and easiest.
    I'll queue for whatever I want and I will say that I'm happy to get LOTA or Syrus and hope I continue to get them until SE fixes the problem by awarding experience worth the effort.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra View Post
    I'll queue for whatever I want and I will say that I'm happy to get LOTA or Syrus and hope I continue to get them until SE fixes the problem by awarding experience worth the effort.
    So are you admitting you deliberately remove equipment to get lower level raids in order to coast through? Because that's what's being talked about here. Not going, "Oh yippy! LotA! I love this one! I'm so glad I got it randomly!"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doozer View Post
    So are you admitting you deliberately remove equipment to get lower level raids in order to coast through? Because that's what's being talked about here. Not going, "Oh yippy! LotA! I love this one! I'm so glad I got it randomly!"
    I really do like it and I don't cheese ilevel and if I did I sure wouldn't be silly enough to admit it here. I have lots of alts I run with alliance for 50 tomes to help cap them weekly and a couple for experience and Alliance Roulettes is a staple of what I do to achieve that goal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra View Post
    I really do like it and I don't cheese ilevel and if I did I sure wouldn't be silly enough to admit it here. I have lots of alts I run with alliance for 50 tomes to help cap them weekly and a couple for experience and Alliance Roulettes is a staple of what I do to achieve that goal.
    So then this thread isn't about you. Enjoy LotA. No one is stopping you. This is specifically about people who lower their ilevel to get into lower level and easier raids.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doozer View Post
    I know they're afraid of even a shred of challenge
    It has nothing to do with challenge. It has to do with the time/reward earned for the roulette involved. SE could fix the problem easily by awarding more experience for 60 and even more for 70 level raids. They chose to do that with Praetorium and Castrum and tell me how many moans do you get when people get Castrum instead of Prae not to mention those that leave the duty because of it.

    i can get more experience by running the Pixie Beast Tribes than I do from running Alliance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doozer View Post
    I know they're afraid of even a shred of challenge
    Those doing roulettes don't even care about challenge to be afraid of it in the first place. It's always reward/time. Simple as that. Level 50 alliance raids can be done in 7-12min and gives the same reward as higher level raids and less chances of wipes. Same reason why people prefer Praetorium and drop out of Castrum, even though it's shorter in time compared to Praetorium. But the EXP gain/time for Praetorium is much higher than Castrum.
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