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    SannaR's Avatar
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    Sanna Rosewood
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    Midgardsormr
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    White Mage Lv 100

    The coppied Factory vs SHB canon

    Ok so I can mentally go with the whole raid as us and 2P beating up everything with the dwarves mostly just watching. The only fight where I have a soooo how does this work canonically is the one where we're actually seperated by groups. None of our Scion freinds are there and as far as we know no adventuring friends are able to travel to the first like we can. So, my question is how are we supposed to think of that part of the raid with how the story portrays the WoL's time in the first being a mostly solo stint?
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    JeanneOrnitier's Avatar
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    Noa Kyrie
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    Mateus
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Presumably we picked up adventurers from Clan Nutsy, I guess.
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    Rica Elak'ha
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    Cerberus
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    Summoner Lv 100
    We contacted our buddy the Exarch and he called upon 23 heros. Or such.
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    I'm taking Lore way too seriously. And I'm not sorry about that.

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    Qt Melon
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    Cactuar
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    Bard Lv 100
    Obviously if you open that one door.... (after the raid is done and you look for the DATA) ...maybe that's who helped you? XD
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    Samuel Wolcott
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    Leviathan
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Iirc after reading a few quest/dungeons descriptions, the lore regarding most MP content is that the WoL (you the player) just calls up their adventurer buddies to run a dungeon, trial, etc. The other 3, 7, or 23 players are just friends to the WoL, this goes the same way for the other players, you're the adventurer buddy and their the WoL, I think the only exception to this is when you fight Hades and the exar summons other WoL's from other shards to help you.

    So I think it goes like this, sure the WoL could (probably not) solo the copied factory, but wouldn't it be more fun/easier to bring along a few buddies?
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    Last edited by E4EO; 11-22-2019 at 04:52 AM.

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    Iyami Galvayra
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    The First has adventurers of its own. Maybe we call on some of them for help.
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    Raldo Volca
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    There's not really any reason why the Scions couldn't have tagged along.


    With that said, it's better if you don't try to rationalize everything. The first thought I had when I entered this duty was "You're telling me that these mines/caves immediately lead out into a giant open-air factory, and nobody knew about it despite the existence of airships and flying mounts? Hah!"
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    Ulala Ula
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    Shiva
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    Reaper Lv 90
    Its not open air, its underground and just looks like open air.
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    Iyami Galvayra
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raldo View Post
    There's not really any reason why the Scions couldn't have tagged along.


    With that said, it's better if you don't try to rationalize everything. The first thought I had when I entered this duty was "You're telling me that these mines/caves immediately lead out into a giant open-air factory, and nobody knew about it despite the existence of airships and flying mounts? Hah!"
    To be fair, it's in Eulmoran territory. Vauthry's army probably discouraged anyone else from flying nearby, and the machines probably took care of anyone who actually got that close. No survivors means no witnesses.

    Also, y'know, flying machines ain't cheap. And they've had a century of sin eaters trying to kill them all, so there were more immediate concerns.
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    Swyrtwyr Guolglansyn
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    Paladin Lv 90
    N:A Spoilers:

    23 people


    deleted their save file so we could succeed
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