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    Quote Originally Posted by Lersayil View Post
    Objectively monstrous to us. And I don't think anyone tossed the hero tag around in-game.
    Except the Minstreling Wanderer did? The entire description of Hades EX does?

    I'm not really inclined to take the character's "moral relativism" line as words to live by when he is the one responsible for all the atrocities in question, and the writers seem to have a lot of trouble with consistency on the matter of "moral relativism". Shadowbringers presents the jarring situation where the narrative pushed far harder to dehumanize one of Selch's victims -- Vauthry -- while entirely excusing Selch for his creation, going so far as to imply it was "heroic" for him to corrupt an unborn baby (without seeking the mother's consent, no less). Why is that?

    On a MUCH smaller scale of destruction in comparison, Zephirin killed Haurchefant in the name of the greater good of Ishgard, but I don't recall ever being told he was a tragic hero for it. In fact, I was given the option of wanting to tear his heart out -- and no one popped in to say WELL UHM ACTUALLY

    Yet here we are in this thread, being asked by some to not only consider Emet-Selch heroic by his standards, but by ours as well, lmao. IttyBitty has a solid point, I sincerely doubt there would be nearly the defense of Emet-Selch's actions were he not "Foxy Grandpa". It's lazy writing to excuse the evils of one character and condemn the same evils of another based on whether or not the character is meant to be a fandom darling.
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    Last edited by Puksi; 11-15-2019 at 03:28 AM.