No More Big Pulls in Dungeons

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You’re a poor healer if you don’t care about being efficient. If you hold Benediction for emergencies, it’s likely you’ll lose use of it entirely in most dungeons.

A lot of people would disagree with you, but you're always welcome to hop over to Crystal and see how I play for yourself.

If I don't have to use Benediction, then that's a good thing. It means everyone's gear was just in the right spot, the tank used all of their CDs to the best of their abilities, DPS were AoEing to their fullest potential, and I had plenty of time to throw out my own AoEs.

??? Do you understand how Excog works?

You put it on a tank so that it will proc and heal them up when they dip below 50%. Meaning you are free to do whatever while it is on them. Using it after they’ve dipped below the automatic heal threshold of the skill is a waste of the skill, and shows you don’t understand how it works.

Okay, but I'm not using it after someone has dipped below 50%.

Excogitation is specifically designed as a safety net; a 'what if' scenario. If it doesn't go off before the timer runs out, then once again, that's very much a good thing for the same reasons I mentioned as with not having to use Benediction.

You’re being willfully negligent by ignoring your instant cast spells, and misusing skills like Excog.

Neither of which I'm doing or advocating, so what's your point?

You do know that people can post on here with alt characters and not necessarily their mains, right? For all you know, PyurBlue could have level 80 healers and heal Savage content on them. But if you want advice from a level 80 healer, I have all 3 to level 80 and have healed all content from dungeons to Ultimate: you’re healing incorrectly if you save your instants for emergencies.

Hiding behind an alt/another account/whatever a relatable situation is never a good look as far as I'm concerned.

Maybe what you're doing works for you, and if so, that's great, but after playing this game since ARR, my experience says otherwise. Needless risks just aren't worth it.

Tank busters are not common in dungeons. Regen and Asylum are often enough to get through a pull if the tank is decent and the DPS are awake. That gives me 20 to 30 seconds to do..... DPS.

They are in Shadowbringers, and many mobs hit like a truck, as well. I'm not even arguing against the latter; you're talking to someone that was a chronic stance dancer.

A healer who lets people drop without them dying is actually someone who knows precisely what he is doing.
It's fine to play it a bit safe if it's your first run but after that you should have an idea about which cast is the tankbuster, which is the party-wide damage and which mechanic is completely avoidable.

People learn and memorize at different rates. For me, it tends to take one. For others, it might take several. It's not universal.

Absolutely not.
A healer that is saving strong instant/ oGCD heals for emergencies definitely doesn't know what he's doing. They are there to prevent emergencies from happening in the first place while freeing up time to dps which -again- avoids emergency situations in the first place - dead mobs can't kill you.
Relying on hard-casted heals is the most inefficient way to heal past a certain level and a last resort when other options are exhausted. This isn't about messed-up priorities or laziness, it's simply the most efficient way to heal. Period.
Letting instants and oGCDs sit is a bad habit. It's fine for someone new and inexperienced, escpecially if they came over from a game where you needed to save them and healers were much weaker compared to incoming damage. But part of learning the healer role is using your full kit to it's full potential and that includes utilizing instants and oGCDs as often as possible to maximize dps time without frontloading them.

If it's inefficient, how come I don't run out of MP? How come I never have trouble healing anyone, but have plenty of time to DPS?

Let's say this is whatever the latest alliance raid may be, and I'm playing Scholar. If I'm wasting spells like Lustrate because I'm too tunnel-visioned to care about the tank until they drop below 50%, what will I have left for other party members that missed crucial mechanics and are seconds away from death during the middle of a DPS race? Adlo and Physick won't go off in time; not enough for multiple people.

That was my last Copied Factory run. Difference was, I saved my emergency spells and helped prevent a wipe.

Hello there. PLD main here, previously AST/SCH in SB, but I didn't do the endgame savage content then.

This is the exact opposite of what you should be telling people.
As long as my healers keep me alive, I don't care if I am at 1 HP or 100,000 HP.

Healers should mainly use oGCDs to heal, and DPS while they don't need to heal.

More damage from healers = more mobs dead = less heals needed = faster dungeon/trial/raid

I don't use my oGCDs as a crutch and still have plenty of time to DPS without risks.

You evidently know very little about healing then, yikes. Tanks do not need to be topped off at all times in most of the content in this game. Letting the health of your tank dip to 50% is totally fine and common in the majority of cases, especially when you have tanks like Warrior and Gunbreaker - who can bolide or holmgang to cheese busters. Then you just pop a regen or tetra onto them. If you're Scholar, you probably already set down recitation excog. You have options, OGCDs don't cost mana and are not there for emergencies, and regens are fairly powerful. There are of course cases where you want the party to be topped off, but these are fewer and farther in between. Quake in Hades EX comes to mind. So use your OGCDs when you need to put a little spot healing down and DPS 'till your heart's content.

I'm pretty sure I know more about it than someone that has a one year-old account with all three healers still at level 70.

While accidents happen, you should never, EVER, scare your tank into using their invuln like that, especially with their lengthy timers.

Oh god stop with this silly argument. Astro has a skill that legit mutes your entire point in Essential Dignity:
Restores target's HP.
Cure Potency: 400
Potency increases up to 1,100 as the target's HP decreases.
Maximum Charges: 2

That type of logic doesn't fly especially now with all of the healer changes. Healing has become so boring and mute that keeping everyone topped off is a waste of time and your resources. I'd much rather have a healer helping me dps down a boss to make everyone's life easier then giving me the juice of life constantly cutting down our dps by 25%. They have tools in OGCDs to help the party and the damage output from most bosses is enough to manage even with those.

Your logic just won't fly in Savage or even EX when you can't meet dps checks because you're too focused on topping the tank off when you could be instead getting some extra hits to meet a dps check.

Essential Dignity is an emergency skill. That's exactly why its potency ramps up when the target has less DPS. That justifies what I'm saying; it doesn't deny it.

We're not even talking about Savage or EX. This is a thread about dungeons. Besides, Yoshida himself confirmed years ago that healer DPS isn't a factor in raids.

When I play healer. Esp in expert dungeons/raids and trial fights. I rarely use a GCD heal. I actually challenge myself to see if I can go a whole run with no GCD heals. I guess I'm just lazy. But then I'm also doing 6-7K dps to. I dont even main healer or play it that much.

There's a difference between setting a challenge for oneself and the type of player I'm referring to. Still, this isn't something I'd wanna do unless I'm playing with friends.

Look, if what y'all are doing works for you, that's fine, and I'm sure it does in the context of playing with friends, but it's this exact type of advice that ends up filling duty finder with healers that think they're a green DPS. That's not something I want to see more than I already do.