No More Big Pulls in Dungeons

[Doozer]

Speak for yourself. When I heal I find small pulls exceedingly boring. Moreover people have been doing large pulls in level cap dungeons forever with minimal trouble. Its not new and is the norm for those dungeons. I'd say if you want to play outside the norm, youre the one that needs to form your own party.

I did speak for myself. You can't just throw that in like a trump card as an argument against whatever I said.

I don't want to further injure my wrist because someone is in a hurry to be in a hurry. And just because the herd is doing it, that doesn't mean I have to conform to that. People swear that healer queues are instant anyway, so go ahead and kick me because you died despite me casting literally as fast as I possibly can, I'll get back in with a tank that actually respects me and doesn't see me as a "heal slut" or whatever it is they call healers these days.

[SturmChurro]

I did speak for myself. You can't just throw that in like a trump card as an argument against whatever I said.

I don't want to further injure my wrist because someone is in a hurry to be in a hurry. And just because the herd is doing it, that doesn't mean I have to conform to that. People swear that healer queues are instant anyway, so go ahead and kick me because you died despite me casting literally as fast as I possibly can, I'll get back in with a tank that actually respects me and doesn't see me as a "heal slut" or whatever it is they call healers these days.

Injure your wrist?

[Doozer]

Injure your wrist?

Did I not spell it right? I injured my wrist about a decade ago, and it still flares up from time to time, usually after having to strain myself to keep a tank alive that insists on big pulls and/or won't use their defensive skills.

[SturmChurro]

Did I not spell it right? I injured my wrist about a decade ago, and it still flares up from time to time, usually after having to strain myself to keep a tank alive that insists on big pulls and/or won't use their defensive skills.

Hmm, you should try key mapping changes, or maybe an mmo mouse.

[Doozer]

Hmm, you should try key mapping changes, or maybe an mmo mouse.

I used to have an MMO mouse but I can't really re-learn to hit like 12 buttons with my thumb. But it happens no matter what I'm playing, if it's PC or console, if I play for too long or do way too many button presses in play session (like yesterday, I was mashing the button for Benefic II to try to heal that tank as quickly as my GCD would let me), so I just try not to play too much at a time, and not cause myself any unneeded stress.

However, that shouldn't mean that I'm the one that needs to set up a PF for every single duty, just to avoid that. It's always funny that people favor the ones that want to do things fast, or the meta, or whatever, and show no sympathy for people who go against that. It's not even with malice, I just can't do speedruns of every duty when I'm playing.

[Awha]

I used to have an MMO mouse but I can't really re-learn to hit like 12 buttons with my thumb. But it happens no matter what I'm playing, if it's PC or console, if I play for too long or do way too many button presses in play session (like yesterday, I was mashing the button for Benefic II to try to heal that tank as quickly as my GCD would let me), so I just try not to play too much at a time, and not cause myself any unneeded stress.

However, that shouldn't mean that I'm the one that needs to set up a PF for every single duty, just to avoid that. It's always funny that people favor the ones that want to do things fast, or the meta, or whatever, and show no sympathy for people who go against that. It's not even with malice, I just can't do speedruns of every duty when I'm playing.

My issue with this mindset is while you may not see it as as such you are asking for special considerations to be made on your behalf. If the group wants a speed run, and you are unable to meet that demand then that is on you and not the group and I personally feel by no means should anyone take it personal just so happens that was not the right group.

Granted, just my two cents.

[Lambdafish]

Did I not spell it right? I injured my wrist about a decade ago, and it still flares up from time to time, usually after having to strain myself to keep a tank alive that insists on big pulls and/or won't use their defensive skills.

I'll try my best not to sound like an ass, but that's not the communities problem, that's your problem. If you don't want large pulls, it's not difficult to say "hey guys, I have a wrist injury, would you mind doing smaller pull, I'd much appreciate it". Having a vendetta against big pulls just puts you in the wrong, having communication in the run is the best way to solve all situations.

[Doozer]

I'll try my best not to sound like an ass, but that's not the communities problem, that's your problem. If you don't want large pulls, it's not difficult to say "hey guys, I have a wrist injury, would you mind doing smaller pull, I'd much appreciate it". Having a vendetta against big pulls just puts you in the wrong, having communication in the run is the best way to solve all situations.

Okay, but let me turn that around on you -- Why is it the community's problem when someone wants to go fast? If you want large pulls, it's not difficult to ask, "Hey guys, can I do large pulls? I'd much appreciate it". Having a vendetta against small pulls just puts you in the wrong, having communication in the run is the best way to solve all situations.

Only once in all the time I've played has anyone ever even said they were doing large pulls. No one has asked me if I wanted to. Why do I have to ask them not to, and not the other way around? Why is it okay to assume that one way of playing is the default, and that no one should even ask if that's what everyone wants to do?

[Lersayil]

Okay, but let me turn that around on you -- Why is it the community's problem when someone wants to go fast? If you want large pulls, it's not difficult to ask, "Hey guys, can I do large pulls? I'd much appreciate it". Having a vendetta against small pulls just puts you in the wrong, having communication in the run is the best way to solve all situations.

Only once in all the time I've played has anyone ever even said they were doing large pulls. No one has asked me if I wanted to. Why do I have to ask them not to, and not the other way around? Why is it okay to assume that one way of playing is the default, and that no one should even ask if that's what everyone wants to do?

Because its the widely accepted default. Its the optimal way to complete a dungeon and not exactly hard with proper gear and average skill levels. Unless there is a glaring reason to assume otherwise (noticably low item levels for instance), its what people expect and usually prefer.

If you have special circumstances that you cannot work around, and throw it out in chat, requesting smaller pulls as a healer or tank, I rarely see anyone argue.

EDIT: also, complementary acknowledgement that the OP is baiting.

[Jybril]

Okay, but let me turn that around on you -- Why is it the community's problem when someone wants to go fast? If you want large pulls, it's not difficult to ask, "Hey guys, can I do large pulls? I'd much appreciate it". Having a vendetta against small pulls just puts you in the wrong, having communication in the run is the best way to solve all situations.

Only once in all the time I've played has anyone ever even said they were doing large pulls. No one has asked me if I wanted to. Why do I have to ask them not to, and not the other way around? Why is it okay to assume that one way of playing is the default, and that no one should even ask if that's what everyone wants to do?

The other day my co-heal in Copied told us all she had a hand injury recently and was sorry in advance.
She still did really good but I was grateful that she told me, so I can put a bit extra in my heals and
I even Rescued her once and got a thank you from it.

Thing is, people will not know if you have an issue if you don't communicate.
So speak up! Large pulls have been a thing for many years. Sorry you have the injury though.
You could also try being a WHM since it's easier to manage things with them.