The Future of the "Ranged" Role - Feedback for 5.1 Onward.

[Galvuu]

the problem, and why maybe the goal but not the effect of a raw dps buff is the same is that it simply feels bad.

for all their "simplicity" or whatever you want to call it literally no one takes a ranged with them because they are usefull, i mentioned in another thread i clear eden through party finder, honest to heart i'm telling you that where it not for the 1% buff i would exclude myself from partys, like no i would reroll or whatever, but stupid as it may sound even I dont want a ranged in my group and would rather run double caster if i had leveled and geared one

It's not optimal to replace the ranged player with a caster/melee though. Not right now, and it wasn't in 5.0 either.
I understand the frustration, and I do think the role is underpowered, but we're not at a point where it's a good idea to lock them out on any metric (not rdps, not safety, not utility).

And I was just musing about it. It wouldn't be too bad to double down on the support aspect and expect every group to run one (and design fights with their support in mind).

[Akiudo]

It's not optimal to replace the ranged player with a caster/melee though. Not right now, and it wasn't in 5.0 either.
I understand the frustration, and I do think the role is underpowered, but we're not at a point where it's a good idea to lock them out on any metric (not rdps, not safety, not utility).

And I was just musing about it. It wouldn't be too bad to double down on the support aspect and expect every group to run one (and design fights with their support in mind).

switching out myself (bard) on levi for a redmage of equal skill and gear would actually end up at roughly the same dps, maybe a loss of 50 dps and the redmage would bring a rezz with him, taking a blackmage at that level would actually push the group by around 200 dps and lets not even talk about summoner, yes, it would be mathematically optimal to replace me with a second caster (75 percentile)