Can we please put Coils of Bahamut in normal raid roulette?

[Nestama]

Alot of these mentions are not one shots or even two shots anymore. Post nerfs and overgearing, you can consistently "fail" these mechanics mentioned and NOT outright wipe.

It takes a literal effort to fail MULTIPLE mechanics in a row to wipe. Even DF is capable to execute one or two mechanics consistent enough. Anyone saying otherwise is outright lying to themselves.

And which ones are those? Melusine gains a damage up buff every time she's yelled at (Cursed Voice not being aimed out of the arena/Renauds and Shriek not being blocked. Also Melusine looking at Petrifaction cast by Prosector), so I can foresee her one shotting people with Flame Circle (or nearly killing them and making healers panic) or the tank with her tank buster (that doesn't have a cast). T8's Ballistic Missile still needs to be handled correctly as far as I know and if no one handles the confused tank correctly (or the OT doesn't tank swap), then the boss is gonna turn and cleave the group with Bleed. Allagan Field is going to wipe groups if no one protects them.

If people still wipe to Chrysalis in roulette, then wipes are guaranteed in a roulette involving Coil. People will quit these faster than they do Orbonne... or Shinryu when it was 3.0.

[Havenchild]

And which ones are those? Melusine gains a damage up buff every time she's yelled at (Cursed Voice not being aimed out of the arena/Renauds and Shriek not being blocked. Also Melusine looking at Petrifaction cast by Prosector), so I can foresee her one shotting people with Flame Circle (or nearly killing them and making healers panic) or the tank with her tank buster (that doesn't have a cast). T8's Ballistic Missile still needs to be handled correctly as far as I know and if no one handles the confused tank correctly (or the OT doesn't tank swap), then the boss is gonna turn and cleave the group with Bleed. Allagan Field is going to wipe groups if no one protects them.

If people still wipe to Chrysalis in roulette, then wipes are guaranteed in a roulette involving Coil. People will quit these faster than they do Orbonne... or Shinryu when it was 3.0.

Before actually assuming these mechanics are that deadly, understand that these weren't outright wipe offenses pre 3.0. It is either a collective effort of failed mechanics, or failure of a single specific mechanic (of the few that can even wipe a party) that is. Hop into these instances right now and you will down these fights ignoring almost every mechanic you mentioned. The fights progress too fast for it to be any outright life threatening thing. Hell, you can kill the boss before Allagan Field goes off depending on DPS.

[Nestama]

Before actually assuming these mechanics are that deadly, understand that these weren't outright wipe offenses pre 3.0. It is either a collective effort of failed mechanics, or failure of a single specific mechanic (of the few that can even wipe a party) that is. Hop into these instances right now and you will down these fights ignoring almost every mechanic you mentioned. The fights progress too fast for it to be any outright life threatening thing. Hell, you can kill the boss before Allagan Field goes off depending on DPS.

I'm assuming they're deadly based on what I expect in Duty Finder and my expectations are always low in that regard (because the bad experiences I've had outweigh the quick and easy runs I've had). I will always expect the OT to either never grab the add, or be too late to. I am always going to expect the tank and melee DPS to be petrified because they're getting hit by Cursed Voice. I expect everyone to be petrified every so often by Cursed Shriek (and if at a bad time, the melee DPS might die to the AoE). I expect one or more DPS to ignore the adds. I expect the ranged DPS to be stacked on top of each other and the healers at some point (and depending on how many damage up stacks Melusine has, the wombo combo will kill them). The mechanics do hurt when ignored and can be outright deadly depending on the group you get in Duty Finder. Certain fights nigh impossible ( especially T9, T11 and T13. Maybe even T12 because of black, blue and red fire and Flames of Unforgiveness, etc).

[Crushnight]

They WERE the savage equivalent of their time but with the massive nerfs that were done across the board (least HP nerfs) they were not bad anymore.

Cool lets also add Gordias savage as well since it qualifies all those conditions too, love to see how random df groups handle Nisi, Royal Pentacle, Digititus and hand of pain sync'd XD