Summoner is doing too much in 5.10

[Akiudo]

That's fair, and also why I don't think the differential should be massive. Also, though, now bard and dancer both have 100% up time on raid buffs which is another reason that they might be lower, but also I can agree that given players ability to minimize caster movement and work around mechanics, the difference doesn't need to be huge, but it needs to be enough to justify having a caster else raid groups will just say "if we don't' have to plan movement around the caster and can get the same benefit from taking two ranged physical, why shouldn't we just do that?"

as i really don't get the sentiment, and i'm not trying to start an argument but why do you (its mostly a general question, but you seem to at least try to see the other site which is something a large part of the forum sadly fails at) believe having strong (or in this case allways active) raid buffs should mean lower dps ? i mean lower personal dps of course, thats not a question, but why lower raid dps ? what USE is having a 100% uptime group buff if the buff gives 1000 raid dps if in exchange squares takes 1100 personal dps from me ?