Which should they do next: Combine all crafters into one or add DoH jump potions?

[Selova]

Have people seriously not done leves for crafters and gatherers since the patch hit? It's now easier than it has ever been to level crafting and gathering, It might even be too strong. I went from level 43-50 on my fisher with only 2 levequests at whitebrim. Getting all crafters and gatherers to max level now is gonna be a breeze.

[Nedkel]

Why do we even need a crafting jobs in the first place? Just make them all battle jobs! Imagine fisher dps ouclassing black mage.

[xJimmehx]

Have people seriously not done leves for crafters and gatherers since the patch hit? It's now easier than it has ever been to level crafting and gathering, It might even be too strong. I went from level 43-50 on my fisher with only 2 levequests at whitebrim. Getting all crafters and gatherers to max level now is gonna be a breeze.

I actually have not! I was just recently informed of such from fc mates. I take back what i said about the exp boost. Im so glad that they boosted it.
My friend leveled about 15 levels on 3 different classes last night IN 3 HOURS. lol

[Vidu]

Ya know, you're free to want this, but it's a bit odd how this community seems to want to Spend money to buy a game, spend money on expansions, spend money on the monthly, then spend money to not even play the game (jump potions). I'm also against the consolidation and removal of things, but whatever, I guess that's just me. I joked previously when I said I'm waiting for the 1 Button Consolidation of your classes whole kit, but ya know? The community seems to actually want something like that.

Again, you're free to want this and can advocate for it.

...are you also against the addition of new skills then? Because at a certain point you cant fit all of them on your hotbars anymore - I know I couldnt with my crafters before the consolidation and I'm already using 3 hotbars. So I do to sort through them and throw the useless ones out - and trust me: there were lost of them, some just outright replacing another skill. You never used your normal synthesis after you got weaver to 15 and you never used the weaver level 15 skill once you got weaver to 50 - so why keep the first 2 skills?
Either they just stop adding new skills after level 80 - or they take a hard look at what can be consolidated or removed. They did that with battle skills for this expansion aswell and thank the twelve for that! I think paladin had something around 38 buttons to fit on their hotbars or so - it was a nightmare and certainly not one you could have added any new skills to without kicking some out first.

Its not about consolidating stuff into one button or making everything super easy - its mainly about making jobs playable again and removing the button-bloat that developed over the last 6 years.

[SeraphStray]

Idk I haven't crafted since the patch. I was slowly starting to level up my culinarian, got close to 50 and stopped because I'm pretty sure theres no leves after that. And if that's the case I have no idea how people leveled crafting (or gathering) after 50. No idea. So if this patch makes it a bit easier to catch up, I'm for it.

[Vidu]

Idk I haven't crafted since the patch. I was slowly starting to level up my culinarian, got close to 50 and stopped because I'm pretty sure theres no leves after that. And if that's the case I have no idea how people leveled crafting (or gathering) after 50. No idea. So if this patch makes it a bit easier to catch up, I'm for it.

There are still leves for DoH/DoL, they only removed the ones for DoW/DoM.

Also:
- daily GC-turn ins
- collectables
- weekly crafts for characters like Zhloe, Naago, Kurenai, Adkiragh
- beast tribe dailies: Ixal (up to level 50), Moogles (up to level 60) and Namazu (up to level 70)
Crafter quests also give quite a bit of exp - and as mentioned... leves are still a thing.

[ForteNightshade]

I do think it's becoming too much for a new player to catch up on though.
If you go the omni-crafter route I mean.
Even though crafting has been revamped to be much more friendly for single class crafters, the myriad of ingredients made and processed by each individual crafting class to complete one or another item still almost necessitates the omni-crafter.

Imagine if you were told that to be effective on any combat class that in addition to getting your choice to lv80 you also had to level seven other classes to lv80 as well.
And all of them start from lv1, none of this starting at lv30, 50 or 60.

I got all the crafters to 70 in SB, and it burned me, it burned me out hard.

Um... a friend of mine grinded her WVR from 1-50 in three hours just doing crafts while wearing the basic NQ gear you get from like the first quests. All her accessories broke. Even without leves, it's laughably easy to level now. People who aren't doing it either don't want to or are simply lazy.

[SeraphStray]

There are still leves for DoH/DoL, they only removed the ones for DoW/DoM.

Also:
- daily GC-turn ins
- collectables
- weekly crafts for characters like Zhloe, Naago, Kurenai, Adkiragh
- beast tribe dailies: Ixal (up to level 50), Moogles (up to level 60) and Namazu (up to level 70)
Crafter quests also give quite a bit of exp - and as mentioned... leves are still a thing.

well, that's good then. the guides I'm looking at mention everything BUT leves. which is bizarre to me. they're the most direct way to level these classes it seems like.

[Bacent]

I wouldn't mind if crafters shared the same Hotbar. setting them up again for each one is a nightmare after changing systems

Someone on reddit actually made 4 macros for the new crafting stuff to make it all look nice.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...the_lazy_ones/

It makes all hotbars the same for each crafting class you use it on.

[TaranTatsuuchi]

I wouldn't mind if crafters shared the same Hotbar. setting them up again for each one is a nightmare after changing systems

Set up one then...
Switch to another...

/hotbar copy <class> # current #
(/chotbar for controller bars)

This will copy the specified class's bar to whatever class you're currently on.
You can even macro this for all the hotbars and just swap to each class then hit your macro.

Better than someone else's premade one as you get to choose where everything goes to suit your own preferences.