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  1. #41
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    Hyperia's Avatar
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    Aileen Pureheart
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    Sargatanas
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Most of the more experienced tanks are either:
    A) Taking a break
    B) Playing another job

    They will come back for the patch.
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  2. #42
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    Ryu Saarva
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    Bard Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra View Post
    Last night in LOTA I mentioned to our tank that he should be pulling the adds to the platform for the 4 people there to kill them and not tanking the boss. He got all hot and bothered and had a couple friends with him trying and defend the fact that he didn't have a clue how to tank the duty. We didn't wipe was he big response. Gets pretty old seeing duty after duty with tanks who really don't know the mechanics. It's expected I suppose but at least listen to those trying to help.
    actually it's a lot better if healer spams aoes when the add spawns and then tank and kills it with other people on th platform and tanks just hit the boss.
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  3. #43
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    Mirn Armaya
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    Shiva
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Hyperia View Post
    Most of the more experienced tanks are either:
    A) Taking a break
    B) Playing another job

    They will come back for the patch.
    Or, they aren't bothering with random groups anymore that puts them on standards that they don't feel for having themselves. Fully glad I am for those ilevel requirements in dungeon now.
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  4. #44
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    Y'sira Kurai
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyuSaarva View Post
    actually it's a lot better if healer spams aoes when the add spawns and then tank and kills it with other people on th platform and tanks just hit the boss.
    How do you spam AOE's when you're on a platform well away from where the adds are spawning? Can't even heal the tank or dps who are dpsing the adds that spawn at the boss circle. The tank should be bringing the adds to with in reach of the casters/healers (more than halfway) who are mostly those who are on the platforms so they can kill them or else half the party does nothing during that part of the run.
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    Last edited by LaylaTsarra; 10-28-2019 at 05:57 PM.

  5. #45
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    Ryu Saarva
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    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra View Post
    How do you spam AOE's when you're on a platform well away from where the adds are spawning? Can't even heal the tank or dps who are dpsing the adds that spawn at the boss circle. The tank should be bringing the adds to with in reach of the casters/healers (more than halfway) who are mostly those who are on the platforms so they can kill them or else half the party does nothing during that part of the run.
    aoe heals for maximum enmity so you can tank it as a healer and tank does not waste his time bringing it to the platform.
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  6. #46
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyuSaarva View Post
    aoe heals for maximum enmity so you can tank it as a healer and tank does not waste his time bringing it to the platform.
    You can't do that from the platform if ranged are on the platform and melee up front. Glad you have a new system but that's not how it's played or been played.
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  7. #47
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    Ryu Saarva
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    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra View Post
    You can't do that from the platform if ranged are on the platform and melee up front. Glad you have a new system but that's not how it's played or been played.
    yes you can, I always do it, what is stopping you from doing that?
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  8. #48
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyuSaarva View Post
    yes you can, I always do it, what is stopping you from doing that?
    Well good for you but that's not how it's done. After all is said and done 4 of us sat on that platform with nothing to do.
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  9. #49
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    Odintius Baelsar
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    Coeurl
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    Had a tank uses hollow ground to pull a boss then proceeded using their def cool downs on top of it. I tried saying they didn't need to do that their response was they were trying to give me breathing room for the fight. Then they proceeded never to use said cool downs throughout the rest of the fight if I could smack someone it would be this person. This is rare but a truly special moment to remember!
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  10. #50
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    Makeda Fyah
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    Ultros
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    Reaper Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by LalafellDown View Post
    Ugh, leveling DPS at the moment can’t wait to go back to tanking. Tired of slow tanks. You can pull more than one add you know. The healer was able to do our taxes.
    When I'm tanking I set my pace by my health bar. If the healer isn't keeping me up well, I slow down.

    I've seen plenty of healers that DPS to the exclusion of healing.

    When I'm healing... I heal to the point of trying to keep the tank able to pull to just slightly above my comfort zone. But I see plenty of tanks that run past the limit of my range, don't use any mitigation, keep half a pull on their backside, ignore mobs that are focusing me or a DPS down (in places like Amurat for example with those adds that have a line to one person... I have found myself as a healer having to solo that thing as it tears into me - and I have let a tank die because the choice was that or heal myself from the drain that line-mob was putting on me...

    What I notice in both of these scenarios is that it is extremely easy to get judgmental about the player on the other role... I don't know what's going on on their screen, but I can sure make a whole lot of assumptions.

    The good thing about having all three roles maxed out and at or above iLevel 450 is that I can 'check myself' if I start making all kinds of presumptions about other people... halfway through my "this jerk sucks" mental analysis... I can remember basically the run I was in 5 minutes ago on that other role... and the stuff I was dealing with there... and usually that makes me realize a lot of the criticisms I noted above... might have a reason I don't see from this side of the group right now...
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