Who Thought Adding Difficulty Levels To Instanced Quests Was A Good Idea?

[Eli85]

...paying attention to what exactly? As if the game explains to you all the mechanics immediately and you have no reason to fail Titan at level 30-something as a new player!

People should get off their high horses and realise that what other players do in their SOLO instances is none of their concerns. Besides, with the Trust system in place now there are less opportunities for hardcore meeting casual players.

If it was up to me I would even go as far as to split Duty Finder into "Hardcore" and "Casual" sections and be done with all the forum complains about "bad" vs "elitist" players.

If you can't intuit that telegraph = bad and if I stand in it something bad will happen, I don't know man. If you're not paying attention and discerning that, there are a lot less flattering assessments that can be made. So, yes, the game provides you with enough information, even for a new player. If you choose not to pay attention, to ignore that information, then that's on you.

Not really on a high horse, I just have a basic, low expectation that players, even new players, have some basic problem solving and analytical brain functions. When players—again even new players—cannot use basic brain function to intuit some really obvious mechanics, it's not about elitism; it's about setting and expectation and standing by it. None of which is remotely unreasonable.

[Berethos]

The main reason I'm certain that it will apply to all instanced quest battles and not just experiencing them in the form of NG+ is because it's not under the NG+ heading that their patch notes format uses, but instead has its own heading under the broader overall "Quests" category.

Each change or addition to the Quests category has its own heading, with additional features specific to one of those being placed under that heading. So with the format they use, the addition of NG+ and the addition of control over the difficulty of instanced battles are separate additions (though obviously they can be used in conjunction).

[XenabelleS]

If you can't intuit that telegraph = bad and if I stand in it something bad will happen, I don't know man. If you're not paying attention and discerning that, there are a lot less flattering assessments that can be made. So, yes, the game provides you with enough information, even for a new player. If you choose not to pay attention, to ignore that information, then that's on you.

Well but you know, in this game, if a telegraph appears where you are standing, there is almost no chance you are not getting hit by it even if you are on the other side of the room when the ability goes off because of the lag. It's not "get out of the fire" that makes this game challenging, it's if you don't react instantly and correctly, you have no chance. I get hit every time in Titan because by the time I see the line appear on my screen, it's too late - I'm getting knocked off.

[Sated]

Someone's preferred difficulty setting doesn't reflect their skill. Period.

[DevilsDontFly]

Yea it's totally not going to affect the fact that I already carry people quite often in normal modes by healing and ressing the results of easily avoidable damage. These people had the ability to complete the normal modes of the solo content. Imagine the people who cannot and choose the easier modes instead.

Lovely.

I can see your point, but here: You do solo instances once. Me doing MSQ as a White Mage won't suddenly turn me into a good Dragoon by association when I decide to level it. You're correlating two different things in the same logic path and it makes no sense. You can already skip everything up to shadowbringers with potions. That's why I don't understand all the crybabying happening here. The baddies you have to carry through your duties did everything you've done so far under the same dificulty level you did. I see terrible people on duty finder with Titania weapons all the time and guess why? You can be an awesome Monk and get all your tokens and still be a horrible WAR with your shiny weapon. None of that is a reflection of how difficult or easy solo instances are.

You learn how to play this game through dungeons and trials. Solo duties are an introduction to status ailments and stacking mechanics at best, nothing else.

[Chalbee]

That has to be one of the dumbest ideas ever because it basically gives a free pass, especially for new players who were just given an excuse to not make an effort in playing the game. If someone from Square Enix came up with this idea, they need to be fired.

You know, this morning as I was reading the patch notes I saw that update on solo duty difficulty, and I instantly thought "oh, there will be some threads complaining about this on the forums" Thank you for proving me right, I guess?

[Nepentha]

This is actually a great thing for people who have physical or mental handicaps.

[Arazehl]

That has to be one of the dumbest ideas ever because it basically gives a free pass, especially for new players who were just given an excuse to not make an effort in playing the game. If someone from Square Enix came up with this idea, they need to be fired.

There is already a thread for this topic.

[Stepjam]

No comment on mental but there's a guy in my fc with cerebral palsy who has to play one handed. He is able to clear the solo content without that much issue.

I feel like this is a bad idea. The instances as they are barely ask anything of the player. If you know how to play your class and aren't horribly under geared, you should have little issue clearing msq content. I'm still confused by people who had trouble with Zenos. I cleared him first attempt, and I'm not a savage raider or anything. There was one player I remember who couldn't clear I think it was Zenos, and it turns out they were just spamming riot blade.

I don't think its too much for the game to expect you to understand how to play your class on a basic level 100+ hours into the game

[Nepentha]

No comment on mental but there's a guy in my fc with cerebral palsy who has to play one handed. He is able to clear the solo content without that much issue.

I feel like this is a bad idea. The instances as they are barely ask anything of the player. If you know how to play your class and aren't horribly under geared, you should have little issue clearing msq content. I'm still confused by people who had trouble with Zenos. I cleared him first attempt, and I'm not a savage raider or anything. There was one player I remember who couldn't clear I think it was Zenos, and it turns out they were just spamming riot blade.

I don't think its too much for the game to expect you to understand how to play your class on a basic level 100+ hours into the game

I see, so everyone who has a physical handicap is the same. I understand now.