Horrifyingly bad experience

[Arazehl]

Since you've not been playing that long, you should research other posts regarding housing prior to when prices were adjusted. The original prices of houses was, on average, higher than the prices players are/were reselling the plots at.

The troll has returned. You should give up all those houses you own too, but oh well. The one who greedily grab up all these houses in a ward speaks since it shines a light your way and no one really listens anymore.

[Big_Bap]

The troll has returned. You should give up all those houses you own too, but oh well. The one who greedily grab up all these houses in a ward speaks since it shines a light your way and no one really listens anymore.

We sold the houses lol. Regarding attention, the analytics on our website disagree with you LOL.

You can stay upset at players reselling houses all you want, but the fact remains that houses being traded between players are in most cases, cheaper than what they used to cost on release. You should leave your tainted judgement at the door if you want to fact check people.

[Kenky]

Do you have any reference to this?
I know that the way inventories are handled make it hard to expand their size without adding strain to servers, and the existing housing wards add load on the servers since the wards are always there even if nobody is in them. I have not heard anything that indicates that instanced anything is adding undue load do servers, but I could of course have missed it.

In one of the newer live-letters (or perhaps even an interview with Yoshi-P. I think its the latter), he states that data-transfer is already close to bursting and even pointed out that, for examples sake. A large group of players that have a LOT of data attached to them (quests complete, dungeons run, etc, etc) could hamper the servers loading capabilities and straight up crash the data-center. Not just the server.

It's also quite visible when earlier, an entire data-center would crash quite frequently, purely because of what was happening on Balmung. The other 6 - 7 servers on its Data-center were negligible to server-load at best. (This was before the new data-center addition, though moving Balmung, Mateus and the lot to another center doesn't seem to have fixed much..)

[Arazehl]

We sold the houses lol. Regarding attention, the analytics on our website disagree with you LOL.

You can stay upset at players reselling houses all you want, but the fact remains that houses being traded between players are in most cases, cheaper than what they used to cost on release. You should leave your tainted judgement at the door if you want to fact check people.

I don't give two shakes about your analytics or your website. Many know what you're about and you love to troll anyone about housing and spew nonsense about much of it. But hey they can go look up your previous posts for themselves. It's quite entertaining.

What is most hilarious is that I wasn't even talking about player trade of plots, but you go on ahead spew whatever nonsense you wish, because this is what you're infamous for anyway, well aside from greediness. Don't expect me to congratulate you on your profit from hoards of houses you owned and say you sold. You deprived quite a few out of owning plots and now do you expect a pat on the back? Sorry no can do little one.

[Kenky]

I don't give two shakes about your analytics or your website. Many know what you're about and you love to troll anyone about housing and spew nonsense about much of it. But hey they can go look up your previous posts for themselves. It's quite entertaining.

What is most hilarious is that I wasn't even talking about player trade of plots, but you go on ahead spew whatever nonsense you wish, because this is what you're infamous for anyway, well aside from greediness. Don't expect me to congratulate you on your profit from hoards of houses you owned and say you sold. You deprived quite a few out of owning plots and now do you expect a pat on the back? Sorry no can do little one.

Or you could, just.. Y'know.

Not engage it? Stick to the topics intention and remain on-point, rather than derail it? (Rather hypocritical coming from me, but point still stands)

In Baps defense, though. When they purchased the housing, they weren't doing anything wrong. So they were (And to some, still are) well within their right to own said housing. People that come late to the party cannot really complain about no housing, when they could've got said housing if they came to FFXIV earlier. Not much of a great defense, but saying certain players are horrible people, purely because they own things you don't is kind of petty.

I mean, again, there are plenty of servers that, prior to Shadowbringers launch (Which brought most of the new players in, might I add) that were mostly ghost-towns. Plenty of plots vacant with barely anyone going for them. It's only with the new flood of players that the issue gets put under the microscope. Something not even SE can fix preemptively. (Not without wasting resources on a PROBABILITY. Not a CONFIRMATION)

[Penthea]

People that come late to the party cannot really complain about no housing, when they could've got said housing if they came to FFXIV earlier.

This is an exceptionally unfair thing to say. You almost make it sound like had they enough sense to come earlier then they would have a house.

Housing is the only content in the game in which you can meet all the prerequisites to engage in it but you still cannot participate because there is limited supply. In fact such a system is exceptionally rare these days in gaming.

No one should be told they aren't allowed to complain about it when they have no reason to know about it unless they actually play the game (referring to "if they came to FFXIV earlier") and when they are literally paying for access to all the content in the game but they are roadblocked by bad design, not their own shortcomings.

This idea that players are not allowed to complain simply because of when they began playing or wanting to get a house is downright awful.

[Elkanah]

Honestly, the best time to consider buying a house (when hardly anyone is doing so), is when there's no new patches going on or content drought for the few months. Other than the hardcore endgame players doing the highest content, most of the casuals will fall off by week 6-8 when they have all their gear (either by raid normal/endgame) or tomestones. This is about the time you want to start looking for houses. I've done this three times on three separate datacenters (aether > primal > crystal) and was able to buy a house without standing in front of the plaque and clicking it.

Alternatively, right as a maintenance period goes live is another time you want to be standing in front of the house and purchasing it the moment the server gets back up (as some houses come up within their timers on time). But if you're standing there when its a busier server (and closer to a new patch release), the housing market is gonna go back up. So be patient, and pick a time that's easiest rather than longest. Settle for an apartment for now, and go from there. With new wards being added in, it's only gonna get more difficult till next patch fall off (or several months before new expansion release).

[Big_Bap]

I don't give two shakes about your analytics or your website. Many know what you're about and you love to troll anyone about housing and spew nonsense about much of it. But hey they can go look up your previous posts for themselves. It's quite entertaining.

What is most hilarious is that I wasn't even talking about player trade of plots, but you go on ahead spew whatever nonsense you wish, because this is what you're infamous for anyway, well aside from greediness. Don't expect me to congratulate you on your profit from hoards of houses you owned and say you sold. You deprived quite a few out of owning plots and now do you expect a pat on the back? Sorry no can do little one.

Of course you don't, you do not care about facts. You proved it again not only once, but twice!

We don't particularly care about anyone's opinion and especially not yours since you cannot even handle facts. Not surprising when you run in circle screaming when I point out the flaws in your posts. We have no sympathy for hypothetical house owners who could have very well do nothing with the houses we used to own. Just like the thousands of players who do nothing with their personal house other than entering it every couple weeks because it's about to be demolished. Take a few step back, maybe you'll see the forest.

[TheForce]

This is an exceptionally unfair thing to say. You almost make it sound like had they enough sense to come earlier then they would have a house.

Housing is the only content in the game in which you can meet all the prerequisites to engage in it but you still cannot participate because there is limited supply. In fact such a system is exceptionally rare these days in gaming.

No one should be told they aren't allowed to complain about it when they have no reason to know about it unless they actually play the game (referring to "if they came to FFXIV earlier") and when they are literally paying for access to all the content in the game but they are roadblocked by bad design, not their own shortcomings.

This idea that players are not allowed to complain simply because of when they began playing or wanting to get a house is downright awful.

Gotta stop you right there. I wanna focus on what you said about "paying for access to all the content in the game." Some of you guys really, really need to stop throwing around the misconception that paying a sub entitles to you to every single piece of content in the game. The ONLY thing paying a sub guarantees you is access/entrance to the game. That is it. I'm not trying to say you don't deserve a house/apt or anything like that, everybody should have a place to call theirs, but please stop trying to use the fact that you pay a sub as reasoning for why you should be guaranteed one. That's not how it works.

[Kenky]

This is an exceptionally unfair thing to say. You almost make it sound like had they enough sense to come earlier then they would have a house.

Housing is the only content in the game in which you can meet all the prerequisites to engage in it but you still cannot participate because there is limited supply. In fact such a system is exceptionally rare these days in gaming.

No one should be told they aren't allowed to complain about it when they have no reason to know about it unless they actually play the game (referring to "if they came to FFXIV earlier") and when they are literally paying for access to all the content in the game but they are roadblocked by bad design, not their own shortcomings.

This idea that players are not allowed to complain simply because of when they began playing or wanting to get a house is downright awful.

nice cut-off of the last part of that particular quote there. Almost as if you openly chose to ignore it as it would debunk this entire post. So let me post it for you again!

"It's not much of a great defense, but people saying certain players are horrible people, purely because they own things you don't is kind of petty"

Now. With that in mind. People saying that players who own more than one house are <Insert bad words here!> is what I'm getting at. People who actively hate and attack others who have a house, while the person doing the attackign came late to the party and thus, has to contend with everyone with the placard-spam. That's not fair to the owners.

Given FFXIV openly boasts about their Housing Districts, if anyone new to the game DOESN'T know about them, then they must've been living under a rock. Especially with the hub-bub about it in Live Letters, interviews and even FFXIVs stands at conventions. The "I didn't know X was a thing" falls at the first hurdle when you actively ignore public-domain info thats been floating around for years.

And to end it. I'm not saying people can't complain about it I'm saying people can't yell at home-owners because they have a house and you don't. I, personally cannot really log into the game without getting a slew of "You're a horrible person" or "You should just <insert bad words here> " Purely because I have a house in the Goblet. Infact, one of the worst (if not the worst) plots in the Goblet. Yet I still receive hate for it. So there are people out there that are just that petty.

EDIT: Just noticed. Your "I pay my sub, so I am entitled to everything" defense. You know that's a horrible defense and makes you seem like an entitled brat, right? Just so you're aware. You pay to get access to the game. You have access. End.