Horrifyingly bad experience

[Vulcann]

The short answer is server strain. They would have to change things about how data is stored and accessed to facilitate proper instanced housing. I'm sure it is more than that. It obviously would cost time and money to create this content and I suppose SE would rather pump those resources into other content instead.

SE are able to create instanced housing. Whether they want to or not is another thing altogether.

BULL SHIT

a game in 2004 called everquest 2 had COMPLETELY instanced housing, multiple houses of various looks and sizes and every character on your account could have one. so the idea that its server strain is complete and utter fucking nonsense, i am so sick of this stupid answer repeated by ignorant people.

[JowyAtreides]

BULL SHIT

a game in 2004 called everquest 2 had COMPLETELY instanced housing, multiple houses of various looks and sizes and every character on your account could have one. so the idea that its server strain is complete and utter fucking nonsense, i am so sick of this stupid answer repeated by ignorant people.

A very productive contribution to the thread /slowclap

We already have instanced housing, it's called apartments.

They do not want to add instanced housing in the form that Everquest did, it is as simple as that and I see literally no other reason, unless you're suggesting they like to hold their customers in contempt and refuse to look into implementing it for the lols?

Give them a business case to implement it and they might just do it. They clearly don't see a noticeable number of players quitting the game for this reason whereas they see people getting to certain points of the story and not progressing (post ARR), hence the attention to reducing the burden on players at this point.

[MistakeNot]

Incorrect.

The legitimate reason why "Instanced housing" is currently not possible is because of how players retain their data-packets and how the server deals with said data. In order to make Instanced Housing (Not meaning apartments) a plausible thing, it would require a bolt-on to the framework, if not a full-on rework of the data-management. Which is incredibly costly and not a surefire guarantee that it'll fix the issues.

The servers (Congested ones, at least) already have issues with load-stammering and random disconnects from Packet-loss skyrocketing for no reason beyond Burden being too high. We legit do not have much to work with at the current state.

Do you have any reference to this?
I know that the way inventories are handled make it hard to expand their size without adding strain to servers, and the existing housing wards add load on the servers since the wards are always there even if nobody is in them. I have not heard anything that indicates that instanced anything is adding undue load do servers, but I could of course have missed it.

[Vulcann]

A very productive contribution to the thread /slowclap

gotta call out the stupid so they stop repeating the nonsense.

if its a design choice that is one thing (and stupid decision) but a decision. however the idea that they can't do it because of server issues is bullshit and needs to stop being repeated as fact.

[Alyanna_Elingval]

Well, I figure making huge overhauls to the current system would probably take a lot of resources for them. They built a new game on top of the old infrastructure and probably did it in a rush to get the game back out as soon as possible. They probably figured they cross whatever bridge arose from those problems when they got to it. Well, we're at that bridge. Now that we're at that bridge is it worth it for them to devote the resources? Are people leaving this game in droves over the housing system? I doubt it. Are there people coming to game for the housing system? Doubtful as well. How many people per server even care that much? 2/3 of a server on average probably don't have houses. That's thousands of people per server. How many truly care? Hundreds maybe? It's probably not worth it for SE to overhaul the system. Easier to do bandaids than surgery.

[FaulPern]

What can you do with a house that you can't do with an apartment?


This isn't a dig or me being passive agressive, I'm not saying you should buy an apartment instead of a house, I'm genuinely curious.

[Archaell]

What can you do with a house that you can't do with an apartment?

Can't cross-breed plants, can't use outdoor furniture. Otherwise it's the same thing and people just want it because it's limited luxury.

[LalafellDown]

At least there is a chance for everyone to pick up the house. I mean the previous way I didn’t even get to see what a plot on sale even looked like. Was able to pick up a house one day by randomly checking and the plot was open.

[GojuSuzi]

What can you do with a house that you can't do with an apartment?
This isn't a dig or me being passive agressive, I'm not saying you should buy an apartment instead of a house, I'm genuinely curious.

As mentioned, garden decoration and cross-breeding plants. Also, bigger space for those who like decorating (I'm working on my apartment until the new wards release and my FC can get a place, and it is very...cosy).

FC specific, but the Workshops are not available via apartments, only in houses, so to make Aether Wheels, go on Exploration Missions, etc. the house is a pre-requisite.

[Penthea]

BULL SHIT

a game in 2004 called everquest 2 had COMPLETELY instanced housing, multiple houses of various looks and sizes and every character on your account could have one. so the idea that its server strain is complete and utter fucking nonsense, i am so sick of this stupid answer repeated by ignorant people.

Wow, no need to be so hostile.

Just because a game is newer doesn't mean it is developed better than an older game. I take it you have either forgotten about or don't know about how ridiculously bad 1.0 FFXIV was? 2.0 was made in a rush and frankly we don't know how much 1.0 code could still be lurking in the game. SE's claims about server strain might actually be true. It is very possible some old crappy code is stopping them from doing a lot of things, and code isn't an easy thing to navigate especially when it's done badly. Never mind how housing is very clearly not on the top of SE's list to fix.

I agree that it is a stupid answer because they should have sorted it out by now. But it would be nice if you didn't call me ignorant. I'm only repeating what I have read, and musing about what they likely would have to change. I'm not pulling this stuff out of my rear end. So kindly take your crappy attitude and shove it back where you found it.

gotta call out the stupid so they stop repeating the nonsense.

if its a design choice that is one thing (and stupid decision) but a decision. however the idea that they can't do it because of server issues is bullshit and needs to stop being repeated as fact.

I take it you missed this part.

It obviously would cost time and money to create this content and I suppose SE would rather pump those resources into other content instead.

SE are able to create instanced housing. Whether they want to or not is another thing altogether.

I did say they can do it. Things like server strain can be fixed. Whether they want to do it or not is another matter.