Quote Originally Posted by Shurrikhan View Post
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Suggest it then. Also, please define exactly what it is you want in complexity, so everyone here can understand beyond a shadow of a doubt. I keep suggesting complexity (and dps too, both p and r!) and I have yet to see someone give any substantive criticism beyond "muh bloat." And to be clear, when I say "criticism" I'm talking about more than just going "nah, this won't work." I want to hear tweaks, counter-suggestions, modifications. I want to see people take the idea and run with it, not a bunch of defeatists stubbornly claiming that SE won't do anything so let's just add more dps.

Overall, I'm seeing a lot of regular posters in this thread who can't walk the talk they're talking. You have people complain about dps and a lack of complexity, so I offer an option that increases both (by a larger margin than is suggested elsewhere no less) and suddenly it's all about ability bloat and then the goal posts move. "Shallow complexity." What the fuck even is that? Please, enlighten me.