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    Karuru Karu
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mhaeric View Post
    All of which can be solved by reading the tooltip. Adding the word ranged in the description isn't going to fix stupid. Also, it's a level 76 ability. People who have it are not new to the job nor should they be solidifying their rotation which is the same even when level synced to the lowest dungeons.
    Why are you against this? What does it take away from you when they add the word "ranged" to the tooltip?

    The skill is confusing for some people, evident because they said so in this topic, and adding the word may help some people to understand the ability better, or maybe not, but at least it would be something.
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    Cyrillo Rongway
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tint View Post
    Why are you against this? What does it take away from you when they add the word "ranged" to the tooltip?
    The wording "delivers an attack" always means physical damage. "Deals <element/aspect> damage" is always magical.

    The inclusion of the word "ranged" would be redundant, as the range is listed as 25y and anyone interested in the range can see this on the tooltip. However, if one wanted to argue for a change, it should definitely not be to "delivers a ranged attack" because Enchanted weaponskills are magical. It should be, "Deals unaspected damage with a potency of x to a target in range," and even that's not the greatest because every skill only affects a target in range, which brings us back to "just read the Range field on the tooltip".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rongway View Post
    The wording "delivers an attack" always means physical damage. "Deals <element/aspect> damage" is always magical.
    And delivering this information in this way has always been fucky, so if we're going to ask for clarity, maybe this here is a problem that needs addressed first. 'Just knowing' something that is not in the tooltips is not good conveyance.
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    Mhaeric Llystrom
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tint View Post
    Why are you against this? What does it take away from you when they add the word "ranged" to the tooltip?

    The skill is confusing for some people, evident because they said so in this topic, and adding the word may help some people to understand the ability better, or maybe not, but at least it would be something.
    Where do you draw the line? "This single target ranged attack deals magic damage of the unaspected type and does that damage to a target within range of the attack which is 25y instead of the normal 3y of a melee attack. This ranged attack is an upgraded version of the unenchanted melee version of the skill, Reprise, that does physical damage at a range of 3y instead of a ranged attack with the range of 25y that this ability has. Use this ability when you aren't able to cast a spell for at least a full GCD. Even then, using Enchanted Moulinet is a better option in some cases. Using it in any other situation is a DPS loss. Please look forward to more explanation of this if people are confused by that and need more assistance."

    It already says it's a ranged attack in the tooltip, every other ranged attack in the game uses the same notification as this tooltip, and the tooltip already fully describes what it does aside from telling you how to fit it into a rotation. When I first looked at the ability on day 1 of 5.0 by opening up the actions menu and looking at everything before I even had any of the new 70+ skills, I saw another weaponskill there, was curious what it did, and within 30s figured out it was a ranged attack because it says it very clearly in the tooltip under the range heading.
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