Increase apartments

[Con_Carne]

Now that additional plots will be added in 5.1, an idea crossed my mind.

Housing is cool yup: initially a place for FCs to reunite, roleplay, sitting, etc… In one word: A guild place for players. Private Housing is also cool (I have a small house), but then I saw its consequences, every player wants a house. At one moment, no more plots are available, and people (both FC and individuals) ask for more.

After some time, we get more wards, but this problem wont never end, and SE cannot give us wards eternally (I suppose there will be a limit in a future day).

That's why they added apartments, a perfect way for individual players to experience the housing system + chocobo stables. Buuuut yup, apartments are too small, so that's why maybe players may not be convinced with just that small space and prefer a house anyway.

So, I would suggest SE about some posibilities. Maybe they would say something like "server collapse" but I'll say it:

* 1. Space

Increase the small space of apartments equal to a medium or maybe mansion floor (just the base floor, not asking for duplex xD). Players will find a bigger place and may encourage them to be happy with just an apartment.

* 2. Garden

Include the possibility for apartments to have a private garden, so players can use Outdoor furnishings as well, which would encourage them even more to be fine with an apartment.

However, the Chocobo Stable and the Miniature Aetheryte wouldn't be available for this gardens, since the apartment building already has those things. The Letter Boxes neither, (¿but I was thinking about the possibility to add a Delivery Moogle NPC for housing just like the retainers or other NPCs?).

And that's all.

[Edax]

Now that additional plots will be added in 5.1, an idea crossed my mind.

Housing is cool yup: initially a place for FCs to reunite, roleplay, sitting, etc… In one word: A guild place for players. Private Housing is also cool (I have a small house), but then I saw its consequences, every player wants a house. At one moment, no more plots are available, and people (both FC and individuals) ask for more.

After some time, we get more wards, but this problem wont never end, and SE cannot give us wards eternally (I suppose there will be a limit in a future day).

That's why they added apartments, a perfect way for individual players to experience the housing system + chocobo stables. Buuuut yup, apartments are too small, so that's why maybe players may not be convinced with just that small space and prefer a house anyway.

So, I would suggest SE about some posibilities. Maybe they would say something like "server collapse" but I'll say it:

* 1. Space

Increase the small space of apartments equal to a medium or maybe mansion floor (just the base floor, not asking for duplex xD). Players will find a bigger place and may encourage them to be happy with just an apartment.

* 2. Garden

Include the possibility for apartments to have a private garden, so players can use Outdoor furnishings as well, which would encourage them even more to be fine with an apartment.

However, the Chocobo Stable and the Miniature Aetheryte wouldn't be available for this gardens, since the apartment building already has those things. The Letter Boxes neither, (¿but I was thinking about the possibility to add a Delivery Moogle NPC for housing just like the retainers or other NPCs?).

And that's all.

You've not suggested anything that hasn't already been demanded a thousand times on the forums.

[Nicodemus_Mercy]

I'd be happy if they simply increased the number of objects I can place in an apartment to 200.

[Kenky]

* 1. Space

Increase the small space of apartments equal to a medium or maybe mansion floor (just the base floor, not asking for duplex xD). Players will find a bigger place and may encourage them to be happy with just an apartment.

* 2. Garden

Include the possibility for apartments to have a private garden, so players can use Outdoor furnishings as well, which would encourage them even more to be fine with an apartment.

1. No. Apartments shouldn't be any bigger than a Small House. No ifs, ands or buts. If they get a size upgrade, every house gets a size upgrade to keep the balance.

2. This one, I actually would be fine with or rather, I agree on. But I remain unconvinced that people would be content with an Apartment Garden, because "It's not a house." or "It doesn't give the neighbor-y feel." Or even the worst one, "people still won't see it."

Sorry, but as someone who lived in a flat for a few years, I can assure you that living in an apartment complex is usually more neighborly than living in a house on a street. It may not correlate in FFXIV, but I'm sure it could be, if there were a common room of sorts. As for the "people won't see it" then, well.

People don't go to the Wards to stare at houses to begin with. They'll go to their house, their FC house or open plots to achieve the former options. I sincerely doubt anyone walks around a housing district, judging everyone's building and general layout.

[Elamys]

1. No. Apartments shouldn't be any bigger than a Small House. No ifs, ands or buts. If they get a size upgrade, every house gets a size upgrade to keep the balance.

Why? Upgrading apartment sizes would alleviate A LOT of the issues with housing plots.

Preferably, I'd like to see the option to purchase successive upgrades for apartments.

[Adeacia]

Why? Upgrading apartment sizes would alleviate A LOT of the issues with housing plots.

Preferably, I'd like to see the option to purchase successive upgrades for apartments.

That's what I would like to see as well. Start with a normal apartment. Pay a certain amount of gil to upgrade the floor size by one level. Pay more gil to add an outside garden, pay more to add a basement, etc. Of course the amount you pay would go up with each upgrade and each upgrade would not be cheap. Eventually you have a full large sized apartment and yard, that costs much more total than simply buying a large house at full price. The much higher price would be because you don't pay it all at once, and because you can't lose an apartment to auto demo.

[einschwartz]

I'm sure most of us who owns apartment (myself included) would be happy to throw our gil for size upgrades, just like others who forked and save gil for their personal house. Most of us want to partake in housing endgame. But we couldn't commit to demolition timer due to work/hobbies/other stuff that requires us to take long breaks from the game.

[Kenky]

Why? Upgrading apartment sizes would alleviate A LOT of the issues with housing plots.

Preferably, I'd like to see the option to purchase successive upgrades for apartments.

Why shouldn't Apartments get upgrades? Because Apartments aren't meant to be comparable to ward housing in general. Apartments are affordable and 1/10th of the cost of even the cheapest Small House Plot. It's that reason that it NEEDS to suck. Otherwise, if Apartments truly were upgradable, then whats the point in getting a small or medium? While true, that would certainly alleviate SOME plot issues, I will remind you that there are plenty of people that have gone on record to say Apartments are worthless and shouldn't exist, purely because the apartments aren't houses.

People still think or assume that having a house means you're superior to others, when that clearly isn't the case. People don't walk around the housing districts (which is disheartening for a Roleplayer.) so nobody but you, your friends and your neighbors will see your house and even fewer of them will care about what it looks like or where it is.

[Yshtola]

Monthly reminder that small houses used to be the exact same thing as apartments, minus the front yard.

Second monthly reminder that some small houses used to cost up to 50,000,000 gil while apartments have always had a 500,000 gil sticker price.

/end_thread

[Elamys]

Why shouldn't Apartments get upgrades? Because Apartments aren't meant to be comparable to ward housing in general. Apartments are affordable and 1/10th of the cost of even the cheapest Small House Plot.

So literally your only argument against it is that apartments are cheap...and yet, one would assume that by purchasing upgrades, the cost of an apartment would become equivalent to or perhaps even more expensive than an apartment. And an apartment is the same size as a private chamber while being more expensive.

What's the point of getting a house then if apartments are upgradeable? Prestige - a yard - and free companies. There are other incentives SE could add to make a plot desirable over houses but I think most of us don't want that. The fact is that SE has, in fact, posited apartments as a freely available alternative to houses, and yet there's very little reason to get one.