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    Quote Originally Posted by Elamys View Post
    Why? Upgrading apartment sizes would alleviate A LOT of the issues with housing plots.

    Preferably, I'd like to see the option to purchase successive upgrades for apartments.
    Why shouldn't Apartments get upgrades? Because Apartments aren't meant to be comparable to ward housing in general. Apartments are affordable and 1/10th of the cost of even the cheapest Small House Plot. It's that reason that it NEEDS to suck. Otherwise, if Apartments truly were upgradable, then whats the point in getting a small or medium? While true, that would certainly alleviate SOME plot issues, I will remind you that there are plenty of people that have gone on record to say Apartments are worthless and shouldn't exist, purely because the apartments aren't houses.

    People still think or assume that having a house means you're superior to others, when that clearly isn't the case. People don't walk around the housing districts (which is disheartening for a Roleplayer.) so nobody but you, your friends and your neighbors will see your house and even fewer of them will care about what it looks like or where it is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kenky View Post
    Why shouldn't Apartments get upgrades? Because Apartments aren't meant to be comparable to ward housing in general. Apartments are affordable and 1/10th of the cost of even the cheapest Small House Plot.
    So literally your only argument against it is that apartments are cheap...and yet, one would assume that by purchasing upgrades, the cost of an apartment would become equivalent to or perhaps even more expensive than an apartment. And an apartment is the same size as a private chamber while being more expensive.

    What's the point of getting a house then if apartments are upgradeable? Prestige - a yard - and free companies. There are other incentives SE could add to make a plot desirable over houses but I think most of us don't want that. The fact is that SE has, in fact, posited apartments as a freely available alternative to houses, and yet there's very little reason to get one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elamys View Post
    So literally your only argument against it is that apartments are cheap...and yet, one would assume that by purchasing upgrades, the cost of an apartment would become equivalent to or perhaps even more expensive than an apartment. And an apartment is the same size as a private chamber while being more expensive.

    What's the point of getting a house then if apartments are upgradeable? Prestige - a yard - and free companies. There are other incentives SE could add to make a plot desirable over houses but I think most of us don't want that. The fact is that SE has, in fact, posited apartments as a freely available alternative to houses, and yet there's very little reason to get one.
    Because if Apartments do indeed become "Upgradable" then that would upset some house owners. The whole "Why do apartments get special treatment? I should be allowed to upgrade my house just as much as they do" sort of defense and it just becomes another circlejerk of "Wanting what the other guy has."

    Let me be clear. I'm all for Apartments getting upgrades, but to a certain extent. I still stand by my point that, for the price of Apartments as they stand, they need to be sub-par and, through upgrading, could become rather weighty. But that comes with the caveat of potentially making an apartment worth more than a Ward House, which is a huge no-no, if SE wants to maintain the demand for ward housing.

    To that end, what exactly do apartment owners expect from a 500K price-tag? A mansion? No. That's like going to rent a flat in a wealthy town for like, $500/month, only to be shocked that the flat you're renting has holes in the wall, or a bug problem, or some other issue / feature that hampers just how much the owner can charge you for. You're not going to expect walking into a Mansion for that low price point, now are you?

    Like a previous post in this same thread. Smalls used to be 50M, yet apartments have always been 500K. For apartments to remain that price, there needs to be some things it just can't do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kenky View Post
    Because if Apartments do indeed become "Upgradable" then that would upset some house owners. The whole "Why do apartments get special treatment? I should be allowed to upgrade my house just as much as they do" sort of defense and it just becomes another circlejerk of "Wanting what the other guy has."
    I disagree because I can own both a House and an Apartment. If Apartments become upgradable, my apartment becomes more viable which would make me happier and not upset. Because homeowners aren't restricted with apartments, they can upgrade their apartments as much as the next guy, negating the "wanting what the other guy has" envy.
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