Revelations from SHADOWBRINGERS

[Alleluia]

Honestly I’d be fine with a Noctis job being this game’s equivalent to beating Matt. ie we cap every class and maybe pass a fight gauntlet. Then we get to have this armiger class where we can use any skill. Itd have to be in the last expac of course. Its very unlikely but just imagine: Hotbars, hotbars everywhere.

[Rannie]

Middy also sent hvaes to us after the final omega raid which happened after he used up all his power to free our character from the 3 minute death squeeze.

Basically, what I mean is even though Midgardsormer is still asleep, I think he still knows or may know what is happening with us though he may not be able to when we crossed the rift due too it may cause him to use more power than what he can afford at the moment.

[EdwinLi]

Honestly I’d be fine with a Noctis job being this game’s equivalent to beating Matt. ie we cap every class and maybe pass a fight gauntlet. Then we get to have this armiger class where we can use any skill. Itd have to be in the last expac of course. Its very unlikely but just imagine: Hotbars, hotbars everywhere.

I doubt SE will make a Job that open to customization. There will be too much complaining as well for REASONS as well.

The best I see it is that they may make it as a Normal Job that focus on being a Mystic Weapon Master Job. Noctis combat style was more of a Weapon Master than Job Master.

It is even represented more by Armiger as the weapons Noctis has collected and Mastered form its appearance with each new weapon he adds into his Armiger Arsenal making it stronger and adds more into the Armiger when he Unleash it.

Ya it will lack the powers of the Other Jobs but it is a Weapon Master of the Job's Weapons themselves instead of the Powers of the Jobs.

As for when it may be introduced, it may be possible for 6.0 or higher since new Jobs are expect to start in lvl 70 or higher at that time.

The Job story can be very consistent with 5.0 MSQ from the unlock at lvl 70 to the ending of 5.0 in lvl 80 with the first few quest leaving questions why WoL can use the Job Stone's powers from the Original World to learning a bit more that WoL had a Original Soul thus it would parallel events of 5.0 MSQ. If players already complete 5.0 MSQ, Job dialogue would be adjusted to show 5.0 MSQ is complete just like how Job quests are during 3.0 and 4.0 before being pushed away by Job Role Quest in 5.0 to be lvl 80 exclusive.

[EdwinLi]

Now then back to the topic of Armiger Job...

While lore wise, they have a nice place to set up the Job story to parallel 5.0 story if they start things at lvl 70 (which is expected for 6.0 expansion new jobs) with dialogue adjusted if players already complete 5.0 or in higher level for future expansions. The gameplay of the Job does not really need to be based on being a Job Master but can be its own separate job if they follow the way they made Gunbreaker in FF14.

Looking at Gunbreaker, they have made FF8 Gunblade Job by converting Squall's limit break skills into normal skills with a combination of Seifer like skills.

Armiger Job can be similar to that design path with the skills being based on Armiger Unleashed attacks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RH2dC4EStU8

Legacy of the Lucii can be the LB3 as the DPS Melee LB3.

Dynasty Stance can be the energy bar build up skill where normal combo build up the energy needed to activate or a OGCD skill provides a recharge for quicker access. Effect wise, it can play similar to how it works in FF15 once activated being apply additional attacks on the normal combo skills or improving or unlocking certain skills as OGCD skills.

[Alleo]

Yesterday an ingame friend finished the main story and his question in Amaurot was: If they can create anything why not just create a spaceship to survive? And honestly I wonder that too. Did they ever try to reach beyond their own star and if not, why not? IMO the 14th might have had more plans that could involve leaving the planet behind (every planet will be gone one day) while the others might have been stuck on their idea of saving this planet no matter what.

[RicaRuin]

Armiger Job Suggestions

Tbh, I think at this point you should move that into a new job ideas Thread or it's own Thread in General Discussions, since it's not really discussing Revelations from Shadowbringers anymore.

[Rannie]

Yesterday an inamge friend finished the main story and his question in Amaurot was: If they can create anything why not just create a spaceship to survive? And honestly I wonder that too. Did they ever try to reach beyond their own star and if not, why not? IMO the 14th might have had more plans that could involve leaving the planet behind (every planet will be gone one day) while the others might have been stuck on their idea of saving this planet no matter what.

Hmm I dont know I think the original calamity came faster than what they could prepare for or they were just long enough in lala land not to heed warnings, but hey it is something to think about.

[LineageRazor]

Yesterday an inamge friend finished the main story and his question in Amaurot was: If they can create anything why not just create a spaceship to survive? And honestly I wonder that too. Did they ever try to reach beyond their own star and if not, why not? IMO the 14th might have had more plans that could involve leaving the planet behind (every planet will be gone one day) while the others might have been stuck on their idea of saving this planet no matter what.

Honestly, while not yet confirmed, I think it's being hinted that the Ancients' creation abilities depend on the planet in some way. They might be able to create a spaceship, but once they actually get into space none of their abilities work anymore - which would be HORRIFYING to them. A bit like if we lost our hands upon going into space.

If this is the case, I'd imagine they may have made some initial forays into space, but when they experienced the consequences they noped right on home again.

It does seem that the Ascians are perfectly comfortable on the moon, but that could still be close enough to the planet to be fine, OR it could be that their abilities still work because Zodiark is housed there. If the former is true and near-space is close enough - perhaps they DID. The planet was in shambles near the end, and it's certainly possible that the survivors moved into space while Zodiark tidied up the planet. The creation-depends-on-the-planet thing, though, could still be the reason they never traveled to other stars.

[Jandor]

Was it confirmed whether the modern races of mankind are sundered bits of Ascian or descendants of the new life that sprung up when Zodiark was messing with things?

[RicaRuin]

Was it confirmed whether the modern races of mankind are sundered bits of Ascian or descendants of the new life that sprung up when Zodiark was messing with things?

No official word, but since Emet-Selch only speaks about them as incomplete, they are sundered for sure. Can still be both, though, as the new life would've been sundered with the world just like the Ancients.