Revelations from SHADOWBRINGERS

[Evraeh]

I think we gonna fight as Estinien in a solo duty. I don't know but for love of God, please, I hope Zenos won't kill Gaius. I'm afraid because - why Estinien is alone in a fight? Do he run away from Zenos to call for help the WoL ? But if that so, Gaius is alone against Zenos (? maybe). With both of them, I'm sure they could manage to escape without so much problem but alone...

[ChaoticCrimson]

Didn't I see somewhere recently (one of the Q/As maybe?) that they might get more into the Hear of Sabik in the future? Given Elidibus' up-until-recent involvement with Garlemald, I don't think it would have been impossible for him to have recovered the Heart at some point and worked to repurpose it for a new model of Ultima Weapon. Of course, it could just be a reverse-engineered version of UW that the empire was working on, probably in hopes of mass-producing them in the future. As for Gaius, I'm sure I saw him in a different scene in the trailer. It's possible he and Estinien had to split up to handle different objectives at some point, so I wouldn't count Gaius out just yet. I still have a feeling he'll probably end up surviving so he can help to rebuild and reform Garlemald after Elidibus and Zenos are dealt with, maybe even becoming the nation's new leader in time.

As for the MSQ, the impression I get aside from the Garlean sections is that Eulmore has to come to terms with what they need to do to survive post-Vauthry, and also at some point, as others seem to have figured, we go to the new dungeon to locate the Nu Mou mage in hopes of finding a way to return the Scions to the Source. I can only guess that the voice saying we might doom our friends instead of saving them is that mage, and I agree that it's also probably in reference to fixing things with the Scions. What this process entails though I could only speculate on, though.

Don't have much to add for the Nier section as yet, since I'm actually in the process of playing Nier Automata now that I'm finally putting some time aside to do so (I'm really enjoying it so far!). I'm still intrigued how they'll tie that game into the FFXIV lore context, but it definitely seems the Dwarves are involved somehow as well as that machine graveyard.

[SaberMaxwell]

I thought there wasn't an actual fight between Elidibus and Zenos, Elidibus basically just spilled the beans and booked it. I recall Zenos lamenting this because he wanted to fight his own body.

[KageTokage]

Welp, if he really is heir apparent then I don't think the circumstances of his ascension are going to necessarily matter that much (Outside of potentially drawing the ire of a significant portion of the populace).

I really expect Garlemald to just become his plaything to fuel his selfish desires by the time 5.x nears its close.

[Rannie]

Thank you Scintilla. I'm glad my memory isnt failing me just yet. I couldn't double check it due to being at work (graveyard shifts are so fun) and I could have sworn it was Thancred. Thanks again ^_^

[Alleluia]

Black Rose is uncontrollable. Gassing the capitol isn't a viable option for someone who hates Zenos b/c he threatens the empire's interests. Or their own interests, which involve running the empire themselves. Though, sure, they could wait till he's out of town and hit him in a remote area and pray it works as planned.

I'm not saying there wouldn't be assassination attempts. Tyrants often field those. I was simply pointing out before that taking over when you have enough might to back you is what Zenos did and exactly how power works, as a response to your statement that it doesn't work like that. Niehter of us mentioned anything before about how long his rule would actually last.

[Edax]

Black Rose is uncontrollable. Gassing the capitol isn't a viable option for someone who hates Zenos b/c he threatens the empire's interests. Or their own interests, which involve running the empire themselves. Though, sure, they could wait till he's out of town and hit him in a remote area and pray it works as planned.

I'm not saying there wouldn't be assassination attempts. Tyrants often field those. I was simply pointing out before that taking over when you have enough might to back you is what Zenos did and exactly how power works, as a response to your statement that it doesn't work like that. Niehter of us mentioned anything before about how long his rule would actually last.

Gassing the capital may entirely be a viable option. I don't know what the range is of Black Rose but it could conceivably just be a single canister in one room in the palace that would be enough to stop Zenos.

[RyuDragnier]

Gassing the capital may entirely be a viable option. I don't know what the range is of Black Rose but it could conceivably just be a single canister in one room in the palace that would be enough to stop Zenos.

Except as was shown, one canister was all it took for Black Rose to go out of the Empire's control. A substance that essentially destroys Aether (which the entire world is formed from) would be uncontrollable and wouldn't be able to be gotten rid of by normal means. Normal gas? Enough of a breeze or wind would dissipate it. But something that destroys Aether, would not be fazed by wind, because IT WOULD DESTROY THE WIND ITSELF.

[Edax]

Except as was shown, one canister was all it took for Black Rose to go out of the Empire's control. A substance that essentially destroys Aether (which the entire world is formed from) would be uncontrollable and wouldn't be able to be gotten rid of by normal means. Normal gas? Enough of a breeze or wind would dissipate it. But something that destroys Aether, would not be fazed by wind, because IT WOULD DESTROY THE WIND ITSELF.

But didn't the victims of Black Rose get personally inspected and thus implying that it does dissipate?

[LineageRazor]

But didn't the victims of Black Rose get personally inspected and thus implying that it does dissipate?

Are you talking about the encampment that Gaius and Alphinaud investigated?

Remember that the END OF THE WORLD Black Rose gas from the Crystal Exarch's timeline was supercharged by the light Aether flooding into the world due to the successful Calamity reabsorbing the First Shard. That stuff may work differently from the Black Rose we've seen used in the "real" timeline. It apparently maintained its potency for two hundred years, still causing problems at the time when the Ironworks staff gave up the world as a lost cause and started the Exarch on his journey.