MSQ cutscene skipping against TOS?

[Vnolan]

To answer the OP here is what happened to my friend.
He did this a lot he skipped MSQ cutscenes. I warned him that it could be considered an exploit but he thought Nah itll be fine.
Well, this past monday he got handed a 30-day ban hammer. Why? Well they said he did an exploit he asked about the specific exploit and it was skipping the cutscenes.
I also had someone demand everyone do it and i said no and was kicked from the duty.

So you can get in trouble if someone reports you. That is your own risk.

There's a typo somewhere or someone is making stuff up.

Account Penalty Policy

■Types of penalty
There are six levels of penalty in ascending order of severity: "Caution", "Warning", "Temporary Service Account Suspension (3 Days)", "Temporary Service Account Suspension (10 Days)", "Temporary Service Account Suspension (20 Days)", "Service Account Termination".

GMs have no way of knowing whether your friend was intentionally disconnecting unless your friend was dumb enough to state so in chat, and as you mention, someone has to report it.

OP you are obviously desperate for someone to say it's ok to skip these cut scenes but it is not. If you get caught, you could get banned. Is that really worth skipping a few minutes of cut scene?

They aren't going to ban (without a warning) a group where all are in agreement to skip the cutscenes when they don't do anything about bots, RMT, account piloting, fraudulent purchases of Mog Station codes (theft), weekly tournament win-trading or any other number of infractions that have been going on in the open for the past several years that actually affect other players.

This is BLU EXP 2.0 (wonder how many in this thread took advantage of that). Got some people salty that the content isn't being respected.

[Enla]

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Different teams handle each of those issues though. The Mogstation people are their own entity, as are the people who deal with the bots, and so on - with the team who apparently is given jurisdiction over the cutscene skips being /very/ proactive by comparison. It's one of the few infractions in this game where being reported for it enough times does seem to produce a temporary ban eventually, which is why so many people are trying to warn others away from doing it. There's a lot to be said about the efficiency of the other teams and how they handle the various infractions under their purview, and a lot of it would justifiably not be positive, but in this once instance it's best not to poke the proverbial bear. Especially when a group kick like that would also count as harassment depending upon the content of the chat log.

[Vnolan]

Also it wouldn't matter if the whole group agreed to skip or not, they're technically breaking the ToS in case a GM might have been watchin in the instance.

Not "technically". It's against the ToS, but there are a bunch of other things against the ToS that are allowed. Looting a FC's coffers before leaving and Lootmaster scam parties aren't even against the ToS.

GMs don't randomly pop into instances or watch players without reports. How could they with how many reports SE gets? If you think the player base is paranoid know, imagine if GMs could dish out penalties for profanity use among friends in private.

The rewards are based on you completing the dungeon and sitting through all the cutscenes. You're using a glitch to collect rewards without completing the requirements. Do you honestly think SE is going to consider that OK? Be completely honest.

How many got in trouble for BLU or Eureka glitching? The cutscene skipping has been going on for at least 18 months

Skipping with new players would be detrimental to their gameplay experience, but I imagine the party dropping because they didn't get the right duty would also be bad for their experience. Difference is most seem to be fine with the latter.

Yes, in order of severity.
If the person was chewing someone out, perhaps that would be a caution or warning.
Someone jumping through exploits would probably get that.

There is no 30-day account suspension. Back when the max temp ban was 9 days the most anyone got for Ungarmax exploiting was 9 days.

Exploiting is flat out cheating

It's not cheating if everyone and anyone can do it. The devs may not want you to do it, but I'm sure they don't want players leaving Castrum because they can't level up while watching TV.

What gives ANY of you any reason to think that you have a right to those rewards when you do not do the requirements for them?

The requirements are completing the dungeon. Should groups that pull the entire dungeon and sac the tank for faster clears also be included in that group? What about players that joined shortly before the clear?

It makes no sense to me that people get so angry at the cutscene skipping thing

who don't earn things as intended and break the TOS.

Like I said, "content isn't being respected".

[Iscah]

TLDR; Expand MSQ Roulette so that it includes more variety.

The MSQ roulette dungeons aren't split out because of their being "the climax" but because of their format: eight players instead of the usual four in a dungeon, and lengthy cutscenes.

The finales for the expansions don't have this format, so are grouped in a separate roulette.

MSQ roulette isn't designed for "variety", it's designed so that those who do it know exactly what they're signing up for to earn those tomes.

How many got in trouble for BLU or Eureka glitching? The cutscene skipping has been going on for at least 18 months

Skipping with new players would be detrimental to their gameplay experience, but I imagine the party dropping because they didn't get the right duty would also be bad for their experience. Difference is most seem to be fine with the latter.

The difference between dropping out and disconnecting-to-skip is that one is permitted within the game, and one requires doing things "outside the game" (force-quitting the program or physically disconnecting your internet connection) that are beyond the programmers' ability to prevent. That doesn't mean they approve of it or wouldn't prevent it if they could, just that it isn't possible for them to control within the game's code.

Choosing to leave the dungeon could be seen as rude, but it is something you are permitted to do via an in-game menu.

[MariaArvana]

They aren't going to ban (without a warning) a group where all are in agreement to skip the cutscenes when they don't do anything about bots, RMT, account piloting, fraudulent purchases of Mog Station codes (theft), weekly tournament win-trading or any other number of infractions that have been going on in the open for the past several years that actually affect other players.

On the account level thing, they have jumped up the levels based on the severeity of your offense. I've known people who've gotten hit by the 3 day suspension despite it being their first offense ever. It's up to the discretion of the one reviewing your case.

I've also known a friend who got hit by the 3 day offense for cutscene skipping despite not having said anything in chat log, there's more data server side they can reference in cases like these to know if you're doing it intentionally or not. Also it wouldn't matter if the whole group agreed to skip or not, they're technically breaking the ToS in case a GM might have been watchin in the instance. And if everyone - x agrees, you'd better hope the x decides to not file reports.

They can do it at their own risk, but if they end up in Mordion Gaol they only have themselves to blame, literally no one else.

[Jybril]

There's a typo somewhere or someone is making stuff up.

Account Penalty Policy

■Types of penalty
There are six levels of penalty in ascending order of severity: "Caution", "Warning", "Temporary Service Account Suspension (3 Days)", "Temporary Service Account Suspension (10 Days)", "Temporary Service Account Suspension (20 Days)", "Service Account Termination".

Yes, in order of severity.
If the person was chewing someone out, perhaps that would be a caution or warning.
Someone jumping through exploits would probably get that.

OP jumped ship though. Probably banned for all we know from trying lol.
She came here wanting validation from someone, and got no one.
I mean, this is just a little bit of common sense here.
You REALLY think it's okay to exploit stuff and risk someone reporting you?
Because some probably will. If you're coming on here the forums with doubts, then you probably shouldn't do it.
Not worth losing $13 or whatever amount of game time over it.
Take the time to do chores or something or don't queue up at all.