Male Viera as a playable character! show your support

[Gwenorai]

Eh, don't know why folks are arguing with this guy. The other day he was literally a lala - I remember the brown/gingerish hair - and then possibly something else, only remember the lala to be honest - not like it matters.

So, shrug. Either way. I think something was brought up about the biceps and all that? I actually get pretty irritated when very active protags don't have the physique they should have. Like I get it, fantasy and all that - but it really grinds my gears. Yes, it's immersion-breaking, and it's silly to dislike - but makers breath does it knark me off. Guy wields massive hammer/greatsword - somehow is underweight and has zero muscle development, his arms are twigs. W O T.

With Viera, the idea that they should be soft looking and not have any biceps at all makes me inwardly cringe because it makes zero sense to me on why they should look like that. The only argument for them not being muscular is something in regards to aesthetic. I doubt anyone here can make up a solid argument why a male humanoid who is constantly hunting and on the prowl would be soft in body and not have defined muscles. No, like the only way in my brain for them to be soft looking is if they ate more than they burned off and had a large number of fat reserves.

I'm curious on if anyone can actually come up with a strong argument on why male Viera should be soft looking - as in body, the face doesn't really count since there's multiple and I doubt all of them would be soft looking

Don't mind me - I'm just a human biologist screaming because that's not how muscles work, ever.

[Senn]

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There doesn't need to be an argument because it's just a video game.

Female viera are also supposed to be warriors, but they look like models.
What about female au ra, especially the xaela?
Lalafells like Pipin fight, but in reality, someone that small wouldn't have that much strength.

I could go on. It's really all about the aesthetics.

Anyway, we already have a general idea for how male viera will look based on interviews.
I still hope we can get a body type closer to Omega M for male viera.

[Gwenorai]

There doesn't need to be an argument because it's just a video game.

Female viera are also supposed to be warriors, but they look like models.
What about female au ra, especially the xaela?
Lalafells like Pipin fight, but in reality, someone that small wouldn't have that much strength.

I could go on. It's really all about the aesthetics.

Anyway, we already have a general idea for how male viera will look based on interviews.
I still hope we can get a body type closer to Omega M for male viera.

Oh yeah, but even those don't make sense!

For females there is one argument is that it takes a lot of effort for a woman to gain defined muscle development without it being part of their genetics. It's why you see a lot of female athletes not be defined, while their male counterparts are. But you can believe that the woman is putting in just as much effort. Sadly this just means women have to put in extra effort to gain those visual results.

Female Au'ra to me shouldn't have looked like that - that sex dimorphism is insane and I don't want to see it repeated. The original concept art for them actually had them be a lot more muscular looking, they looked 'right' when next to their males.

Lala's don't count - that one there is pure fantasy and aesthetic. No amount of science can explain that.

Omega M was good, yes, he certainly wasn't soft looking to me. That dude had biceps. Very clear biceps and a defined chest.

I dont know what are you taking, but stop it.

It's okay bud, someone was going to call you out on it eventually. Lmao.

[Senn]

Lala's don't count - that one there is pure fantasy and aesthetic. No amount of science can explain that.

Omega M was good, yes, he certainly wasn't soft looking to me. That dude had biceps. Very clear biceps and a defined chest.

If lalafells don't count, then that same reasoning should be applied to other races. It's just for aesthetics. Real world biology doesn't have to apply.

and yeah, I'm not saying they shouldn't have biceps, but it would be nice if it was a little smaller imo
Omega M is like the ideal male viera body for me. He's still toned and has muscle, but he's slimmer and elegant looking.

[Gwenorai]

If lalafells don't count, then that same reasoning should be applied to other races. It's just for aesthetics. Real world biology doesn't have to apply.

and yeah, I'm not saying they shouldn't have biceps, but it would be nice if it was a little smaller imo
Omega M is like the ideal male viera body for me. He's still toned and has muscle, but he's slimmer and elegant looking.

Aye, of course - it's more of a pet peeve of mine rather than 'Why is this not correct, I'm not playing this!'
Maybe my imagination just can't paint imagery where they would look soft - as if they've never gone through such hardships at all. Not with the lore that they were given, that's such a harsh lifestyle. And of course, the argument of if Lala's don't count - so neither should Viera, does stand because that's just fantasy. I just frown when it's used, I personally think it's lazy when there isn't an in-depth explanation on why they ended up looking like they do.

Hm, but yeah - there would be no complaints from me if they used Omega M's models for the males. It's elegant, lean and also defined enough for me to accept it with the current lore they have. Not like the devs give a hoot if I accept it or not lol, it's just my personal preference. Lean and muscular/defined is a big <3

tldr; pet peeve when lore/history doesn't match with the current races appearances.

[Omymy]

Eh, don't know why folks are arguing with this guy. The other day he was literally a lala - I remember the brown/gingerish hair - and then possibly something else, only remember the lala to be honest - not like it matters.

I dont know what are you taking, but stop it.