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  1. #201
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    Mahrze's Avatar
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    Mahrze Crossner
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    Jenova
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    Monk Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Jandor View Post
    I don't think having to go find a mob and see it use a skill is really an issue, it's part of the novelty to me.

    As it is now you do need a certain number of BLU spell to get walaquee totems for others. So its kind of the same thing as it is now. Your version just makes it more specific, but the concept is the same in its more basic form: "get x number and receive y" I'm not disagreeing. Just pointing out a version of it already exists.


    Hence the original post you quoted, where I talk about how hollow it all feels. "Attempts were made" and if the issue was "people will be under-skilled" things like the standard "do quest; get skill" or your version would've solved the problem.
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    Last edited by Mahrze; 10-03-2019 at 10:34 PM.
    If you say so.

  2. #202
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    Mito123's Avatar
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    Archmage Myst
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    Sargatanas
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    Thaumaturge Lv 80
    Idk why they make this blu sounds like it's the hardest thing to accomplishlike if it's rocket science. They could keep the learning and still keep it as a main job but they obviously didn't give a rats butt. What i also can't believe is when people ask questionnaire to yoshida and stuff not one person ever ask about blue mage.... If i could ask him a questions that will be my question 1-10. Rework blu to make it a proper job that fits into the game. I demand it. I want to be heard. This is my most concern for this game. Ever since they added blue mage i was disappointed and it completely ruined the game for me. I haven't been on for months. Granted i tried logging in but once i see the pointless of blue mage i log back out and lose interest. It's like for some reason all my interest in the game went away when blue was introduced as a mockery to make fun of. A pathetic knock off of a proper job. Like a huge slap in the face from the devs.
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  3. #203
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    Auryan's Avatar
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    Mister Feeny
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    Gilgamesh
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Mito123 View Post
    Idk why they make this blu sounds like it's the hardest thing to accomplishlike if it's rocket science. They could keep the learning and still keep it as a main job but they obviously didn't give a rats butt. What i also can't believe is when people ask questionnaire to yoshida and stuff not one person ever ask about blue mage.... If i could ask him a questions that will be my question 1-10. Rework blu to make it a proper job that fits into the game. I demand it. I want to be heard. This is my most concern for this game. Ever since they added blue mage i was disappointed and it completely ruined the game for me. I haven't been on for months. Granted i tried logging in but once i see the pointless of blue mage i log back out and lose interest. It's like for some reason all my interest in the game went away when blue was introduced as a mockery to make fun of. A pathetic knock off of a proper job. Like a huge slap in the face from the devs.
    You have the right to be heard, but not the right to demand anything. You aren't owed a job to your liking just because you fantasize about it. If that were the case SMN would be summoning actual primals that do a wide range of things, but that's not how SMN works. And I live with it and move on.

    Some people have asked BLU related questions. Since before and after it came out. It's just the answers aren't what you want to hear. BLU will remain a limited job (side content), has content planned up to lvl 70 with some 120 spells and they will receive feedback when the job is fully implemented. Which I'm assuming that means when it's lvl 70. And feedback means ways to improve the experience and not throw the baby out with the bathwater and start over. Like how they didn't delete Eureka after Pagos, but made Pyros way more accessible.

    And if I may ask, how would your feeling towards XIV be if BLU wasn't mentioned or added at all? If you say that adding a single job (that was likely not going to be added as a standard job when they have so many more straightforward options) ruined your enjoyment of XIV, maybe BLU is not actually the cause of this feeling? But rather an excuse?
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  4. #204
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    Elzen Man
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    Raiden
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    Samurai Lv 70
    Maybe an exaggeration, but it seems like SE are the only mmo whom struggle with job designs to this extent. No mmo is perfectly balanced, they all have issues, but SE makes it seem so difficult. Makes me wonder if the FF brand where not behind this game, how well it would actually fare.

    It isn't a bad game, don't get me wrong. I do think they get away with a lot because the game is called Final Fantasy 14 and not Dungeon Fantasy 14.

    I always wondered why I was never really looking forward to any jobs, maybe this is why....I don't know......I feel BST would be a rat master like a Plague's Tale or something.
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  5. #205
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    If they never mentioned it or added i was perfectly fine. But once they did it ruined the game for me. No it's not an excuse it did ruin my enjoyment. Because it's my all time favorite job and it got shot down.
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  6. #206
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    Leif Freivjr
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    Ultros
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    Arcanist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by MonsutaMan View Post
    Maybe an exaggeration, but it seems like SE are the only mmo whom struggle with job designs to this extent. No mmo is perfectly balanced, they all have issues, but SE makes it seem so difficult. Makes me wonder if the FF brand where not behind this game, how well it would actually fare.

    It isn't a bad game, don't get me wrong. I do think they get away with a lot because the game is called Final Fantasy 14 and not Dungeon Fantasy 14.

    I always wondered why I was never really looking forward to any jobs, maybe this is why....I don't know......I feel BST would be a rat master like a Plague's Tale or something.
    They have certainly done well in conditioning the playerbase to accept these limitations like they are normal when it is only FFXIV that has them.
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  7. #207
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    Mister Feeny
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mito123 View Post
    If they never mentioned it or added i was perfectly fine. But once they did it ruined the game for me. No it's not an excuse it did ruin my enjoyment. Because it's my all time favorite job and it got shot down.
    That's a pretty extreme reaction to a single job not being what you wanted. Favorite or not. It's hard for me to process how one job managed to ruin everything XIV for you. I can get disappointment in that you can't use it like a standard job, but thinking since 4.5.1 your excitement with the game just ended? Seems...bizarre.
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  8. #208
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    Lumen Stargazer
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    Diabolos
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    Red Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Verlyn View Post
    They have certainly done well in conditioning the playerbase to accept these limitations like they are normal when it is only FFXIV that has them.
    That's my problem with BLU, instead of letting BLU play in their themepark MMO they decided to sandbox the job as it own content. Basically negating BLU from 90% of the content since we depend alot on the duty finder. But not only that we are relegated to old content instead of current expansion content which is honestly a slap in the face.

    You want BLU to be a solo job fine, but don't put all these limitations on it and call it a job.

    Our brother MMO FFXI has a solo job too, it's called beastmaster yet they didn't have these absurd limitations and could still party with others if they wanted to, sure they don't have a duty finder in that game, but beastmasters still played solo and could do current expansion stuff. That is the framework they should have used for BLU if they truly intended for it to be a solo job, not this mess.

    Keeping BLU out of raids is one thing, but out of the rest of the game is another thing.
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    Last edited by Brightshadow; 10-05-2019 at 02:13 AM.

  9. #209
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    Lich Kaiser
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    Ragnarok
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    Dark Knight Lv 80
    I just hope they give us the Overpowered job that can solo every content of his own level by himself (like it supposed to be from 1st annoucement), without need others to carry him, just make his skill really owerpowered, not a worst way of other classes. Right now is basically 1/2 lv80 player carryng lv50 blu to learn spells "NICE GAMEPLAY". Or at least give blu the ability to Queue into duty finder and automatically get matched with others Blu who Queue too for the same Duty.
    There is no gameplay into blu right now, is just find some1 or a friend and getting carryed to old content and wait HE do the job for You, wait enemy to use the skill you need, kill boss, repeat untill is learned, proceed to another boss untill book is full, end of blu gameplay. "FUN"
    I actually understand a limited OP job to be LIMITED to not ruin content but blu just sucks, is not OP, is not good, is not fun, and require a bullshit way to play content as it is now.
    HOOOO wait, we have is own minigame thing that actually need 1 day(or less) to be end if you already learned the skill you need (that you supposed to have, since blu actual gameplay is be carryed in old content untill you have all skills)
    Soo now we have 2 way to play blu:
    - Be carryed in old content
    - End Masked Carnival in 1 day or less
    Then wait next expansion for level increase.
    This is the worst gameplay job concept i ever saw in any MMOrpg.
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  10. #210
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    Archmage Myst
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    Quote Originally Posted by Auryan View Post
    That's a pretty extreme reaction to a single job not being what you wanted. Favorite or not. It's hard for me to process how one job managed to ruin everything XIV for you. I can get disappointment in that you can't use it like a standard job, but thinking since 4.5.1 your excitement with the game just ended? Seems...bizarre.
    No its not bizarre im also a petty guy and i feel angered about blue completley. They did a shitty job. I might be too strong but eh they deserve it.
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