MSQ cutscene skipping against TOS?

[Fynlar]

If someone legitimately d/cs, they will typically be a few minutes getting back because the game has to officially log them out first before they can log back in. If someone is skipping, they will typically go offline at all too convenient times and come back. They will also hit the ground running and rush ahead. If it happens one time, no harm no foul.

I don't trust people investigating these sorts of happenings after the fact to be able to tell the difference, tbh

[Gralna]

There is also this which was added to the revised ToS back in Feb.

◆Obstruction of play
"Obstruction of play" means all behaviour in general that obstructs another person's game play. Below is a non-exhaustive list of examples of obstruction of play:

・Spamming
This means using chat (including Quick Chat and Emote) to obstruct another person's conversation, or obstruct the use of mog letters, etc., for example, by sending an excessive number of unnecessary items in mog letters, etc. Even if obstruction was not the objective of the behaviour, it may be deemed a violation if another player is actually obstructed by the behaviour.

・Obstructing transit/progress
This means obstructive behaviour such as group blocking of passages or facilities along which many players pass or obstructing another person's game play progress, for example by overlapping an important NPC deliberately for a long time.

・Improper expulsion voting
This means excluding another person by manipulation of expulsion voting.

・Intentional leaving or disconnection
This means obstructing another person's game play by intentionally leaving the game or disconnecting from the server.

・Other obstruction of play
This means all other behaviour that deliberately obstructs another person's game play by some means.

Revised ToS

[Iscah]

Not sure why they even force you to watch them when can go to a inn anytime and watch them there. If SE wants to everything could be worded and made against TOS. What gets me they still force you to watch them even if run it undersized.

I think people lose sight of the fact that this now-tedious routine is the grand finale of a story, for those playing it for the first time, and you can't simply get the same experience by watching the cutscenes at the inn.

On top of seriously affecting the enjoyment of the dungeon itself, there's no chance to go to an inn and catch up before you proceed to the next step of the story. You exit the dungeon and go straight into the cutscenes of escaping the castrum, the celebratory ceremony afterwards, and an unreplayable in-game section where everyone welcomes you back and congratulates you.

If forced to skip cutscenes during the dungeon, these scenes are out of order and the flow of the story is lost. It's like someone forced you to fast-forward over the climax of a movie, made you watch the final scene after, and said "it doesn't matter, you can watch the rest on YouTube". It's not going to be the same as simply taking in the whole thing as intended.

[Berethos]

it feels like a punishment having to sit though the 55 minutes of cutscenes.

Then don't do it.

FWIW, there are more efficient ways to gain experience than the MSQ in terms of XP per hour...they just aren't as low effort as the MSQ Roulette.

[Krotoan]

I fold laundry and make snacks during Praetorium.

You were quoted the specific segment of the TOS that skipping the cutscenes violates early on in the thread. You won't receive a reply from Square Enix staff here. Arguing your point in an attempt to have others players, bound by the same rules, justify your decision is just... odd, honestly?

It's pretty obvious they've decided what they want to do and weren't actually looking for an answer, just validation.


OP: You have been warned several times in this thread NOT to do it. Your grounds for claiming ignorance of the rule or it's possible repercussions are gone. Exploit mechanics at your own risk. We aren't judging you morally, we are all simply stating facts:
You can and likely will be reported and banned for exploiting in this particular manner.

[Vnolan]

So what if someone legitimately d/cs during these cutscenes? They're gonna get banned for that too?


Unless people are incredibly stupid and say something like "I'm going to force d/c now so that I can get through this dungeon faster, nyah nyah" before they do it, they cannot 100% verify this sort of thing.

^

Anyone got any solid proof that this is forbidden/ban-able?
Like any post from SE or any screenshot with a GM saying confirming it?

Since so far we only got assumptions based on TOS.
The same TOS that forbids RMT/botting/3rd party programs etc.

So till some solid proof is posted we cant know if CS skipping is banable or they turn a blind eye like they do on other offences.

If it's against the ToS, if SE has proof (mostly chat logs/admission of guilt) and if someone reports it, you can get in trouble. About the only way to get in trouble for skipping the cutscenes when all are in agreement would be for SE to go out of their way to check for fishy runs. If they did that, they would only issue temp bans or warnings, but it would raise questions as to why other, more disruptive activities are allowed.

Based on previous actions, if SE feels that too many are doing it they'll likely issue a warning on the lodestone before handing out any punishments.

[RoyalBeef]

You can and likely will be reported and banned for exploiting in this particular manner.

After people calling for punishment for people putting their party in the wrong PF category, or equipping lower level gear when queueing up for a duty, I'm already looking forward to the day where they'll be coming for you when your router disconnects at the wrong time. Brave new world

[Iscah]

After people calling for punishment for people putting their party in the wrong PF category, or equipping lower level gear when queueing up for a duty, I'm already looking forward to the day where they'll be coming for you when your router disconnects at the wrong time. Brave new world

This was already discussed earlier. There's a difference between random disconnects and a pattern of someone dropping out at the start of every long cutscene.

[RoyalBeef]

This was already discussed earlier. There's a difference between random disconnects and a pattern of someone dropping out at the start of every long cutscene.

Idk, I see plenty of people who get DC'ed every couple of minutes whenever their ISP is having hiccups. So who is going to judge the alleged "pattern"?

[Krotoan]

Idk, I see plenty of people who get DC'ed every couple of minutes whenever their ISP is having hiccups. So who is going to judge the alleged "pattern"?

If you DC every time a cutscene comes up (every single time) and once it's over all the players always see YOU running ahead/fighting but you don't drop connection ever during a fight, you're probably doing it on purpose.