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    Vahlnir's Avatar
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    Elan Centauri
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    Diabolos
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Justadude View Post
    if the task force is that small and SE confirmed such a thing then their TOS is void. If they refuse to take appropriate steps to enforce their TOS, that by law invalidates the TOS.
    It doesn't invalidate anything. The rules are still in place that people agreed to follow when they started playing the game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naoki_Yoshida View Post
    Personal Housing
    While I cannot give a specific date on when personal housing will be implemented, I can say that prices will be completely separate from free company housing, and, naturally, far more affordable.

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    Aria Elunia
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    Adamantoise
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    I dont know what's the problem, doing msq praetorium is really the time to chill (watching youtube, tv, netflix) while gaining a lot of exp for me. Not castrum by the way, that place is too hectic and with shorter cutscenes.
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    I fold laundry and make snacks during Praetorium.

    You were quoted the specific segment of the TOS that skipping the cutscenes violates early on in the thread. You won't receive a reply from Square Enix staff here. Arguing your point in an attempt to have others players, bound by the same rules, justify your decision is just... odd, honestly?
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    Krotoan Argaviel
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    Sargatanas
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    Reaper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Chie_M View Post
    I fold laundry and make snacks during Praetorium.

    You were quoted the specific segment of the TOS that skipping the cutscenes violates early on in the thread. You won't receive a reply from Square Enix staff here. Arguing your point in an attempt to have others players, bound by the same rules, justify your decision is just... odd, honestly?
    It's pretty obvious they've decided what they want to do and weren't actually looking for an answer, just validation.


    OP: You have been warned several times in this thread NOT to do it. Your grounds for claiming ignorance of the rule or it's possible repercussions are gone. Exploit mechanics at your own risk. We aren't judging you morally, we are all simply stating facts:
    You can and likely will be reported and banned for exploiting in this particular manner.
    (9)
    WHERE IS THIS KETTLE EVERYONE KEEPS INTRODUCING ME TO?

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    Fynlar Eira
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    Hyperion
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    If someone legitimately d/cs, they will typically be a few minutes getting back because the game has to officially log them out first before they can log back in. If someone is skipping, they will typically go offline at all too convenient times and come back. They will also hit the ground running and rush ahead. If it happens one time, no harm no foul.
    I don't trust people investigating these sorts of happenings after the fact to be able to tell the difference, tbh
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    Gralya Arodica
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    Goblin
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    Scholar Lv 100
    There is also this which was added to the revised ToS back in Feb.

    ◆Obstruction of play
    "Obstruction of play" means all behaviour in general that obstructs another person's game play. Below is a non-exhaustive list of examples of obstruction of play:

    ・Spamming
    This means using chat (including Quick Chat and Emote) to obstruct another person's conversation, or obstruct the use of mog letters, etc., for example, by sending an excessive number of unnecessary items in mog letters, etc. Even if obstruction was not the objective of the behaviour, it may be deemed a violation if another player is actually obstructed by the behaviour.

    ・Obstructing transit/progress
    This means obstructive behaviour such as group blocking of passages or facilities along which many players pass or obstructing another person's game play progress, for example by overlapping an important NPC deliberately for a long time.

    ・Improper expulsion voting
    This means excluding another person by manipulation of expulsion voting.

    ・Intentional leaving or disconnection
    This means obstructing another person's game play by intentionally leaving the game or disconnecting from the server.


    ・Other obstruction of play
    This means all other behaviour that deliberately obstructs another person's game play by some means.
    Revised ToS
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    You can and likely will be reported and banned for exploiting in this particular manner.
    After people calling for punishment for people putting their party in the wrong PF category, or equipping lower level gear when queueing up for a duty, I'm already looking forward to the day where they'll be coming for you when your router disconnects at the wrong time. Brave new world
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    Aurelie Moonsong
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    Bismarck
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by RoyalBeef View Post
    After people calling for punishment for people putting their party in the wrong PF category, or equipping lower level gear when queueing up for a duty, I'm already looking forward to the day where they'll be coming for you when your router disconnects at the wrong time. Brave new world
    This was already discussed earlier. There's a difference between random disconnects and a pattern of someone dropping out at the start of every long cutscene.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    This was already discussed earlier. There's a difference between random disconnects and a pattern of someone dropping out at the start of every long cutscene.
    Idk, I see plenty of people who get DC'ed every couple of minutes whenever their ISP is having hiccups. So who is going to judge the alleged "pattern"?
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    Krotoan Argaviel
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    Sargatanas
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    Quote Originally Posted by RoyalBeef View Post
    Idk, I see plenty of people who get DC'ed every couple of minutes whenever their ISP is having hiccups. So who is going to judge the alleged "pattern"?
    If you DC every time a cutscene comes up (every single time) and once it's over all the players always see YOU running ahead/fighting but you don't drop connection ever during a fight, you're probably doing it on purpose.
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    WHERE IS THIS KETTLE EVERYONE KEEPS INTRODUCING ME TO?

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