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[Omymy]

Face =/= bodyshape

Therefore

Kpop singer face =/= feminine bodyshape

As long as there's 1 "young" or "Boyish" face then that part is settled.

The bodyshape/model is a different ballpark.

Or is every average joe suddenly a kpop singer all of a sudden? Cause I want those millions of dollars if so.

Face, bodyshape and all looks like typical asian idol.

I don't know what country you're from, but in Europe, men don't usually have that physiognomy in general. They look like rickety teenagers, for God's sake.

[SomeRandomHuman]

Face, bodyshape and all looks like typical asian idol.

I don't know what country you're from, but in Europe, men don't usually have that physiognomy in general. They look like rickety teenagers, for God's sake.

So a guy with a little bit of musculature is feminine? My how the male power fantasy has taken over. I guess if you're not straight off a men's health magazine then you're a girly-man.

[Gwenorai]

So a guy with a little bit of musculature is feminine? My how the male power fantasy has taken over. I guess if you're not straight off a men's health magazine then you're a girly-man.

This is weird to me. I honestly thought that midlander with max 'define' actually looked pretty damn good. Midlanders and Miqote aren't scrawny, they're pretty well built. And I'm sure the average man does not have biceps that large or defined, or the sixpack. Unless we're talking about their faces where you can make 'feminine' looking males; but that body - that body is all 'male' there is nothing feminine about it.

Face, bodyshape and all looks like typical asian idol.

I don't know what country you're from, but in Europe, men don't usually have that physiognomy in general. They look like rickety teenagers, for God's sake.

I'm also from Europe. I guess if you're comparing them to native Scandinavians or those who literally body build then that's going to be an unfair comparison. I mention Scandinavians because their average height seems to be above 6ft and a lot of the men are built very robust like - not surprising, Odin has blessed them.

The default midlander face isn't Japanese/K-pop - WoL actually looks like an average western dude. I've seen plenty of like him. He actually falls into the trope of western male protags; you know what I mean. White, brunette and light eyes. Nothing wrong with that.

Hrothgar and Roe aren't don't even have a physique that is obtainable. Maybe less so with the Hrothgar actually, it would depend on a lot of things. Right now they're fantasy bodies.

If we're going back to the whole physique of how Viera should look, then blah blah blah - opinion wise, I'd be happy with them being as toned as max defined midlander/highlander with the minimum height of a MidlanderM (at max) and the maxheight of a male (midrange) Elezen.

[Omymy]

So a guy with a little bit of musculature is feminine? My how the male power fantasy has taken over. I guess if you're not straight off a men's health magazine then you're a girly-man.

The musculature, the body, the emotes and the attitude of the average miqote in general. Don't try to manipulate things because the idea I put on the table is quite clear.

[SomeRandomHuman]

The musculature, the body, the emotes and the attitude of the average miqote in general. Don't try to manipulate things because the idea I put on the table is quite clear.

The idea I'm gathering is that if a male is any less muscular than a highlander then they're feminine which is wholly a false statement that has been elaborated few comments above.

As far as emotes I will concede that they may fall into some anime pitfalls on expression(heck their look is pretty much a neko with the eye lines from big cats thrown in).

But their body is far from feminine.

[Omymy]

The idea I'm gathering is that if a male is any less muscular than a highlander then they're feminine which is wholly a false statement that has been elaborated few comments above.

As far as emotes I will concede that they may fall into some anime pitfalls on expression(heck their look is pretty much a neko with the eye lines from big cats thrown in).

But their body is far from feminine.

I'm talking about the whole thing, not just the musculature.

[SomeRandomHuman]

I'm talking about the whole thing, not just the musculature.

Acting Feminine and being feminine are still different things.

From the standpoint that multiple people have been addressing, it's purely physical. Guess some of the workout moved some muscle on that one.

[Crushnight]

I'm talking about the whole thing, not just the musculature.

If we go by that logic Male Roedagyns are nothing but over the top flamboyant characters, big hunks of wall meat that have some of the silliest emotes in the game what type of person would find their blow kiss / dote emote appealing, their happy is way over the top, psych/Furious makes them look like they are passing kidney stones. The way SE presents Roe males (lalafels too) has been less than stellar (Leviabeetus anyone) that i was surprised Goesetsu was giving as much humility as he did get especially compared to the other reoccurring Roe ("It's like all my namesdays come at once").

Yet i do not think every Roe is like that, actually far from it. If someone wants their character to be as feminine as possible they will do so, same with masculine, people will work with what they like to make something they want and trying to shame people for having preferred taste (male Miqo'tes/Midlanders) as being less masculine is horrible for all anyone knows despite them being that race they could never touch the accursed more 'feminine' emotes, wear more masculine attire and present themselves as the most macho guy out there yet they would be classed as feminine to you because they prefer smaller races.

This whole Masculine/feminine thing is so subjective it is best to just drop it as it just creates pages of pointlessness that derails this thread which it doesn't need help on.

More on topic note if they haven't decided by now if they will do male Viera/female Hrothgar then they ain't coming in 6.0 which will probably be never in this game's lifespan due to the excessive amount of gear that would have to be adjusted for them and i doubt they would ever get the resources boost needed at this point. Which is just disheartening, understandable but still disheartening.