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  1. #81
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    Liam Harper
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    Quote Originally Posted by Awha View Post
    Here is the thing let us say the healer used it to force larger pulls the only way a wipe would happen is if the tank does not grab aggro which with the new tanking changes I cannot think of many legitimate reasons for a tank to not be able to get aggro short from mentioning they were AFK or something. So I would say the wipe was on the fault of the tank, now if the healer was overestimating their own skills and the tank got aggro, used cooldowns etc . . . that is a different story.
    This is why I don't tank in PF. Another player can literally fling you across into a pile of mobs, regardless of your cd's or whether you stopped to type a message or afk for 5 seconds and it's entirely your fault if you aren't ready and adjust immediately.

    I mean, it's fine, majority rules and all that. I'm not going to argue anyone should run my way. I simply accept tanking PF sounds rubbish and there's one less tank in your queues.
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  2. #82
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    Quote Originally Posted by Liam_Harper View Post
    This is why I don't tank in PF. Another player can literally fling you across into a pile of mobs, regardless of your cd's or whether you stopped to type a message or afk for 5 seconds and it's entirely your fault if you aren't ready and adjust immediately.

    I mean, it's fine, majority rules and all that. I'm not going to argue anyone should run my way. I simply accept tanking PF sounds rubbish and there's one less tank in your queues.
    I get where you are coming from, but honestly this does not happen very often, most players simply go with the flow and mutter under their breath, discord, or guild chat.
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  3. #83
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    Sebazy's Avatar
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    Sebazy Spiritwalker
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    Ragnarok
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    Quote Originally Posted by Liam_Harper View Post
    This is why I don't tank in PF. Another player can literally fling you across into a pile of mobs, regardless of your cd's or whether you stopped to type a message or afk for 5 seconds and it's entirely your fault if you aren't ready and adjust immediately.
    Hi.

    Rescue doesn't work on you if you're not in combat. The healer can't just put themselves in combat and then rescue you.

    So uhm, did you pull mobs before you went afk or stopped to type? Or are you just making nonsense and hyperbole up for the sake of this low effort bandwagon? I'm genuinely curious.
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    ~ WHM / badSCH / Snob ~ http://eu.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/871132/ ~

  4. #84
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    CrimsonGunner's Avatar
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    Mike Arklight
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    Twintania
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    White Mage Lv 92
    i agree about rescue,it can be used as weapons since as mentioned the healer can use it to pull someone to aoe.

    rescue can be an excellent tool to pull someone to a safe zone if it is used properly or get someone killed by mistake like using rescue to help someone get to the other side and accidentally kill him.
    when it is between good friends and doesn't interrupt party progress, rescue can also be funny way to troll the friend.
    but for a grieving healer,yea that is a good weapon for trolling without a doubt ,its has a rather long cd but its still a tool that can help a person to troll the party.

    true its not the tool fault but the person who uses it but the fact remains that it can be used for trolling and that is bad ,also very funny when you pull friends to aoe and hilarious deaths XD, but still very bad.
    there are other mmorpg that have a skill for support that work exactly like rescue and those skills can be a tool to troll a party if the healer really wanted to.

    its a standard skill but the fact it can and is used to abuse others is a solid reason to change it and if not maybe even remove it, no doubts about it.

    if a healer used rescue to abuse you(not other party members but you the victim)then just report him like people said and he will get punish.
    and for the OP sorry to hear you got abused with it by the healer in your party,most healers are really not like this at all.
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  5. #85
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    ParadoxHealer's Avatar
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    Embyrr Wynter
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    Diabolos
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    Astrologian Lv 70
    Other skills can be used just as much to troll (need I mention shirk), people troll just by ignoring mechanics or interfering with the party. Healers have had enough taken a way from them, and the jobs dulled to where they are not entertaining, please stop taking away and screwing with their skills because a small number of people use them in a way you don't like.
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  6. #86
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    Elainna Michaella
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    Excalibur
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    Bard Lv 66
    I've seen it, but not to kill someone. They did it just to be obnoxious. Just because I haven't seen someone killed, I can't assume it doesn't ever happen. I have no idea.

    There's always a small group who has to try to ruin everything for everyone, isn't there?

    *le sigh*
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  7. #87
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    Billythepancake's Avatar
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    Evelynn Outreguerlain
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    Diabolos
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    Scholar Lv 80
    I'll be honest, I'll do it on dead runs, where I know we're going to wipe anyway, so I'll rescue someone off the edge, or I would do it back in SB during door boss transition for funsies. I've never seen rescue be an issue for anyone outside of those, though, and when I do see it used it's for stuff like, taking the melee out of animation lock for lb, or for a Savage strat.
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    Make SCH great again! Seriously though, we just want our class to be fun and engaging again, not OP, is that too much to ask for?

  8. #88
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    Ryu Saarva
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    Phoenix
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    Bard Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by ParadoxHealer View Post
    Other skills can be used just as much to troll (need I mention shirk), people troll just by ignoring mechanics or interfering with the party. Healers have had enough taken a way from them, and the jobs dulled to where they are not entertaining, please stop taking away and screwing with their skills because a small number of people use them in a way you don't like.
    you can't troll with shirk anymore because tanks generate ridiculous amounts of enmity now.
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  9. #89
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    Sophie Miret-njer
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    Faerie
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    Black Mage Lv 85
    Quote Originally Posted by Sebazy View Post
    Or are you just making nonsense and hyperbole up for the sake of this low effort bandwagon? I'm genuinely curious.
    I've noticed this is a very common occurrence on this forum.
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  10. #90
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    Hippopotamus Rex
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    Gilgamesh
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    This took a weird turn a couple of pages in. Between the passive aggressive emojis and the very specific focus on other people controlling one's characters being the inherent problem, I get the feeling that A LOT of the complaints are specifically projection about control issues. Really makes you think.

    It takes a very specific mindset to be uniquely bothered that someone else took control of your virtual avatar for a second or two and that being the main complaint with the skill above all else.
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