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    Quote Originally Posted by Awha View Post
    Here is the thing let us say the healer used it to force larger pulls the only way a wipe would happen is if the tank does not grab aggro which with the new tanking changes I cannot think of many legitimate reasons for a tank to not be able to get aggro short from mentioning they were AFK or something. So I would say the wipe was on the fault of the tank, now if the healer was overestimating their own skills and the tank got aggro, used cooldowns etc . . . that is a different story.

    I guess a better way of saying what I am trying to say is even if the healer forces a larger pull if the party wipes due to the tank not getting aggro or using cool downs, the tank is also responsible for the wipe. Sure the healer put the tank in the situation where a wipe could happen, but if the tank froze up and forgot to push buttons, then their actions also contributed to the final outcome IE the wipe.
    Wrong since healer pulled the tank into monsters to make a bigger pull. But did you stop and think if tanks had skills on cd before you did it. Don't try put blame on the tank when your one who decided to use rescue to pull more monsters. Nice try but if group wipes from it. That's 100% on you who caused it. Tank is leader of the party not the healer. Every time seen healer or dps who pulls extra monsters on purpose tank will let them die. Teaches them who is the leader of the party is.
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    Last edited by hynaku; 09-27-2019 at 03:31 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hynaku View Post
    Wrong since healer pulled the tank into monsters to make a bigger pull. But did you stop and think if tanks had skills on cd before you did it. Don't try put blame on the tank when your one who decided to use rescue to pull more monsters. Nice try but if group wipes from it. That's 100% on you who caused it. Tank is leader of the party not the healer. Every time seen healer or dps who pulls extra monsters on purpose tank will let them die. Teaches them who is the leader of the party is.
    Thing is if the tank holds aggro even if the tank does not pop any cool downs if the healer has theirs and the DPS is on point the healer can keep even a brain dead tank alive they just need to hold aggro. All a healer that pulls for a tank that has no cool downs ready does is make their job harder, even if someone pulls extra mobs that does not give someone the excuse to not perform their primary function which is to hold aggro.

    Granted always exceptions, but this is just generally a healer should more or less be able to keep a tank alive through a larger pull even without cool downs if they hold aggro and avoid aoes, more or less by doing their basic function as a tank. When people use to pull extra mobs for me I simply just got the aggro, if I died because they pulled extra mobs that was on them, but if we wiped because I failed to grab aggro either due to lack of skill or willingness how is that not partly my fault? I failed to perform my role as a tank.
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    Last edited by Awha; 09-27-2019 at 08:54 AM.