Rescue being used as a weapon

[Goji1639]

First of all YIKES, calling people sociopaths that casually is not healthy my dude.

Second, I get wanting to control your character, but if your character is standing out in Narnia and I've got aoe healing to do, I'm sure as shit gonna take whatever minor discomfort being pulled in will cause you to make sure you don't die, ie the ultimate taking away of control of your character.

Third, when you report GMs have access to the full log of the dungeon including the battle log, so if you report someone for rescue abuse they can try and peace together what happened, ie search for key word rescue followed by X has died

Sociopath just means anti-social; that's obviously not a compliment but it's also not anything extreme. I didn't say anyone was a violent or psychotic sociopath.

Also, I still don't see the problem with allowing people the option to consent. If they don't want you controlling their character and they die that's on them. Trying to force your will on them is anti-social of you.

[ReiMakoto]

Sociopath just means anti-social; that's obviously not a compliment but it's also not anything extreme. I didn't say anyone was a violent or psychotic sociopath.

Also, I still don't see the problem with allowing people the option to consent. If they don't want you controlling their character and they die that's on them. Trying to force your will on them is anti-social of you.

From Google Sociopath :"a person with a personality disorder manifesting itself in extreme antisocial attitudes and behaviour."

"A sociopath is a term used to describe someone who has antisocial personality disorder (ASPD). People with ASPD can’t understand others’ feelings. They’ll often break rules or make impulsive decisions without feeling guilty for the harm they cause." -Source

Using Rescue is neither and Extreme antisocial attitude and less it is used for trolling explicitly its not causing harm. Sociopath is not the word you are looking for to describe someone moving your character. One could also argue that consent is given by choosing to participate in the game, much like how the act of playing pvp consents to someone trying to kill you in game

[Goji1639]

From Google Sociopath :"a person with a personality disorder manifesting itself in extreme antisocial attitudes and behaviour."

"A sociopath is a term used to describe someone who has antisocial personality disorder (ASPD). People with ASPD can’t understand others’ feelings. They’ll often break rules or make impulsive decisions without feeling guilty for the harm they cause." -Source

Using Rescue is neither and Extreme antisocial attitude and less it is used for trolling explicitly its not causing harm. Sociopath is not the word you are looking for to describe someone moving your character. One could also argue that consent is given by choosing to participate in the game, much like how the act of playing pvp consents to someone trying to kill you in game

Eh, those feeling the need to impose their will on others, and arguing against making it optional, are likely not understanding or respecting other people's feelings. It's anti-social behavior and fits in the purview of sociopathy.

That isn't really the focus of the point I'm trying to make, though. Sociopathy casts a wide net, so we could probably spend all week debating which anti-social behaviors fit and which don't. I'm not sure why you're all so focused on that.

[ReiMakoto]

Eh, those feeling the need to impose their will on others, and arguing against making it optional, are likely not understanding or respecting other people's feelings. It's anti-social behavior and fits in the purview of sociopathy.

That isn't really the focus of the point I'm trying to make, though. Sociopathy casts a wide net, so we could probably spend all week debating which anti-social behaviors fit and which don't. I'm not sure why you're all so focused on that.

I feel youre really stretching definitions there, at what point does peoples feelings and the general desire to play the game clash. Do you need to "Respect the feelings" of a RPing tank who doesnt use aoes and stops all the time, or a dancer who only dance and no other actions, at what level does it become sociopathy to not put up with this people. The reason we're all focusing on that is because implicetly youve called us all sociopaths if we're arguing for free rescuing of people, and if you understood peoples feelings you would understand that

[Goji1639]

I feel youre really stretching definitions there, at what point does peoples feelings and the general desire to play the game clash. Do you need to "Respect the feelings" of a RPing tank who doesnt use aoes and stops all the time, or a dancer who only dance and no other actions, at what level does it become sociopathy to not put up with this people. The reason we're all focusing on that is because implicetly youve called us all sociopaths if we're arguing for free rescuing of people, and if you understood peoples feelings you would understand that

If you don't like how certain people play you don't have to play with them. It's the part where we're forcibly taking their character from them and playing puppet master against their will that's a tad sociopathic. I agree it's on the lighter end of what would fit that term, and I even threw some on my initial claim to show I wasn't entirely serious. Still, it's not incorrect.

[ReiMakoto]

If you don't like how certain people play you don't have to play with them. It's the part where we're forcibly taking their character from them and playing puppet master against their will that's a tad sociopathic. I agree it's on the lighter end of what would fit that term, and I even threw some on my initial claim to show I wasn't entirely serious. Still, it's not incorrect.

Your emojis came off as passive aggressive smug, and youre making rescue sound way more nefarious than it actually is to try and lend credence to your point, no one is going "MWHAHAHA I'M THE PUPPET LORD, DANCE FOR ME MORTAL", theyre more likely going "Oh shit that guys gonna die better save his life", or even "It'd be more beneficial for everyone if that guy was over here in this stack marker/bubble". Neither of those are sociopathic, in fact they are empathic in nature.