Why is RDM invisible right now? Where is the outrage?

[Zyneste]

I wouldn't really say it would be game breaking. No more gamebreaking than warrior's holmgang being on a shorter cd letting them use it several times in a fight used to be. It'd certainly make it pretty appealing while keeping a support feel.

We aren't tanks though. Every tank has access to invulns. We'd become meta for all the wrong reasons "Caster slot locked to RDM. RDM cheese strat, no tank swap"

Its the same issue raise has. You have to share utility like that among the role or its going to cause imbalance.

[Zerathor]

We aren't tanks though. Every tank has access to invulns. We'd become meta for all the wrong reasons "Caster slot locked to RDM. RDM cheese strat, no tank swap"

Its the same issue raise has. You have to share utility like that among the role or its going to cause imbalance.

simple invuln cheeses aren't usually game breaking and don't really make a mechanic much easier. Ever since shirk has become a thing swaps are relatively simple. Their damage output would still be relatively low, in the grand scheme of things that would only give them an extra 150k-300k in a fight depending on if it was used once or twice. That'd be roughly a 4-6% damage boost. Still behind a decent bit, but adding a lot more comfort and flexibility to the encounter. The larger potential to what they would "add" would be if they outright prevented a dps from dying. Could really restore the prog king title to them. Would still be behind enough to not justify in speed runs, but a little higher to be more appealing in weekly reclears.

We could handicap it a little more as well. An attack could still apply debuffs, and the idea i had was it placing the reflect buff on a target for 10 seconds, then it reflects ONE ability or auto attack. Tank cooldowns would still be preferable to most of those mechanics.
Kind of like how old manawall used to be, with the exception of being able to put it on a party member, and it reflecting. It'd be similar to a tank cheat cd, but vastly less powerful, its main appeal would be that it can be placed on anybody.

[SaberMaxwell]

Hey Golden Bahamut take your akh morns back you stupid dummy.

[Zerathor]

Hey Golden Bahamut take your akh morns back you stupid dummy.

That would be some dank memes right there lol, but I was thinking it only reflects once.

[SaberMaxwell]

That would be some dank memes right there lol, but I was thinking it only reflects once.

Guarantee it'll be worthless then lol, it'll suffer just like StB shelltron: verreflect went off on an auto, and now the tank is gonna take the buster naked and die.

[Kabooa]

Guarantee it'll be worthless then lol, it'll suffer just like StB shelltron: verreflect went off on an auto, and now the tank is gonna take the buster naked and die.

It depends.

Does it negate the hit entirely or does it just reduce it to 0?

Negating a hit has huge implications as it doesn't give you the related Debuffs usually associated with such dangerous incoming hits. As an example, you could 'Reflect' the second Stonecrusher in a Tankbuster chain, giving time for the first Debuff to fall off, and then a tank can take the entirety of Stonebuster without an invuln.

Depending on your tank and healer set up, that's pretty significant.

I think it's more reasonable as a 3 cooldown, party shield

VerReflect
Ability
180 second Recast
Effect: Grants you and your party a shield equivalent to 10% of Maximum Health. Damage absorbed is reflected to the attacker.

[Nemekh]

Until you realise the actor performing the damage isn't the boss and the reflect is null and void. I don't think you all want the old headache of Radiant Shield optimisation :^)

[Jkap_Goat]

So slow, boring, repetitive slog with trusts?

I. Don’t. Care. About. A. Dead. Game. Stop. Trying. To. Sell. It. To. Me.

Exactly how I feel with FFXIV duegons and raids lol

[Jkap_Goat]

You're speaking on 75 era FFXI from years long past that ain't coming back. 99 era, leveling is stupidly faster and no one camps NMs anymore.. or at least no longer the ones with items that were once big ticket items. Vrtra(?) and Fafnir, etc, they all sit there all alone with no one to wipe the ground with. Actually I think most of them require pop items now, no thanks to the RMT era that ran alongside the 75 era.

Yeah noone bots for NMs anymore lol this person needs to get updated, there's new dynamis and new endgame content ( I'm not sure what most of it is because I'm doing WOTG storyline missions and working on job points for Dancer/WAR)

And it is POP items or you can use your Records of Eminence missions to POP some NMs

I'm hoping to get in endgame with my dancer/warrior and get Geo/ rdm up too

[Neela]

You shouldn't have to switch jobs. Why is Red Mage the only job in the game that has to deal with people telling them they "should" switch or calling them "training wheels"? That is such a BS mentality and I refuse to accept being kept down just because some people have this warped perception of my favorite job.

Rdm is surely not the only job which faced pf-lockouts or "switch cls"-statements at all... there were Sams, Nins, Smns, Brds & Mchs in older expansions which were treated like that by the speed-run community. Its just natural that those player wanna use the better/easier cls for their runs. This time it's RDM... next time its maybe BLK/Mnk again if the balance patch drops and closes the dps-gap... who knows... : /

Talking about BS-mentality:
If u can't find a grp with pf cause of lockouts... how about making an own grp? There are also enough raider who don't care the meta/community over all mind. But like always... making an own grp needs responsibility and orga... what many player just dont want to do by themselves its easier to talk about lockouts (and holding the opportunity to rage quit if things get worse..) instead. : /

(not to say balance is a joke atm... hopefully 5.1 won't be a fail)