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    Quote Originally Posted by Defmetal View Post
    Don't ever cave in SE. You're doing the right thing.
    Why are gender locked races the right thing?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jameseoakes View Post
    Why are gender locked races the right thing?
    because there aren't male viera in the games. like ff12. They don't fit in with the lore, or the world, and would be inappropriate for 14. Especially since the rest of the world of the 1st was destroyed
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    Quote Originally Posted by Defmetal View Post
    because there aren't male viera in the games. like ff12. They don't fit in with the lore, or the world, and would be inappropriate for 14. Especially since the rest of the world of the 1st was destroyed
    They exist in the lore though so why wouldn't they be appropriate? They could be brought into the game pretty easily if they had the resources or willingness to make it happen. They don't just exist in the First either, so...I'm not sure where you're getting your information from.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Defmetal View Post
    because there aren't male viera in the games. like ff12. They don't fit in with the lore, or the world, and would be inappropriate for 14. Especially since the rest of the world of the 1st was destroyed
    it doesnt mean much though its not like they dont exist and have been told in ShB that males are in the first
    and its not like that even matters the player is not from the first

    lore isnt stopping them from adding Male viera or female hroth
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duskane View Post
    it doesnt mean much though its not like they dont exist and have been told in ShB that males are in the first
    and its not like thateven matters the player is not from the first

    lore isnt stopping them from adding Male viera or female hroth
    Yep. They are both confirmed to exist. We just haven't seen them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Defmetal View Post
    because there aren't male viera in the games. like ff12. They don't fit in with the lore, or the world, and would be inappropriate for 14. Especially since the rest of the world of the 1st was destroyed

    -Sigh- I get really sick of these posts...... -____________-
    Male Miqote in this game are suppose to be a rare sight, yet like half the playerbase are them.
    They said Male Viera were also a rare sight.
    The rare men, however, are still held in high regard as Wood-warder, defenders of the jungle. They remain deeply solitary, except when they decide to take a ward, always a male, to train.

    It is estimated that around 80% of Viera are born female. They begin to show sexual dimorphism at around the age of 13, which is when the males will be taken under the wings of older males to train in the ways of the Wood-warders.
    https://finalfantasy.fandom.com/wiki...al_Fantasy_XIV

    Also this isn't FF12 so there's that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Defmetal View Post
    because there aren't male viera in the games. like ff12. They don't fit in with the lore, or the world, and would be inappropriate for 14. Especially since the rest of the world of the 1st was destroyed
    What's the First got to do with anything? The Source is still there. Besides, there are male Viera in the Ivalice games. They are not sighted, which is a different thing.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sei_Konsetsu View Post
    Sure, they use a modified Roe body, but regardless of what you say, they are indeed very diffrent. They arent just Roe's with cat ears, but you can argue that they are Roe's with cat heads I suppose. The fact is, the head is so unique enough, that that alone makes it different. The only thing Male viera will bring is another humanoid head with ears, period.
    You say it's unique enough. I don't think it is.

    Whatever. You're not really going to convince me and their low % of active characters is all the proof I require that they're far from "necessary". Unique =/= good.

    If you're just here to gripe about male Viera, I suggest you save your breath. It's not going to deter me or anyone else from asking for them to be added.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jybril View Post
    It should have been one or the other, perhaps at this point, the Ronso later in a different expansion.
    Viera themselves have more presence in this game than the Ronso and with Fran's appearance in 4.0...
    Coulda had both genders now and work on the other later.
    I mean, who do we have? Runar, that GNB guy and that one dude you see like twice in MSQ in the Cryst.
    They aren't very fleshed out at all. They don't even coincide with the Viera lol.
    I literally don't know jack squat about that race at all LOL. Unless I'm missing something...
    Viera have their whole own area...
    But the one thing we all know about Viera, is that the males are never seen. That’s been in the lore and even brought over into this game, and even in that Viera area, there isn’t any male viera present… so your point?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jybril View Post

    -Sigh- I get really sick of these posts...... -____________-
    Male Miqote in this game are suppose to be a rare sight, yet like half the playerbase are them.
    They said Male Viera were also a rare sight.

    https://finalfantasy.fandom.com/wiki...al_Fantasy_XIV

    Also this isn't FF12 so there's that.

    Its still lore brought over from a different game into this game. Reguardless if you hate that or not, this was the reason they didn’t include male viera, and to be frank, the rest of the world seems to be ok with this. While I am ok with the idea of Male viera being added, and have nothing against it, when viera was announced, I didn’t expect to see male viera due to lore from ff12.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lauront View Post
    What's the First got to do with anything? The Source is still there. Besides, there are male Viera in the Ivalice games. They are not sighted, which is a different thing.



    You say it's unique enough. I don't think it is.

    Whatever. You're not really going to convince me and their low % of active characters is all the proof I require that they're far from "necessary". Unique =/= good.

    If you're just here to gripe about male Viera, I suggest you save your breath. It's not going to deter me or anyone else from asking for them to be added.
    I never once said I was trying to deter anyone, so try and not take anything I am saying as some sort of attack. And while you can sit here and say that "Low Numbers" and what ever you wish is reason they shouldn't have been added, you cannot deny the fact that they are indeed very different from Roe. Try to refrain from this salty outlook you have and simply pay attention. While I am at it, if your argument is that they look so much like Roe, then what would male viera bring thats different? Its just another humanoid male with ears, nothing is diffrent from say a male miqote or even a male au ra. You may not like Hrothgar, but there are just enough people that enjoy them and what they bring, and even people who don't play the race have pointed out that hey are diffrent enough to be warented being added in the game. You cannot simply look at numbers of people who play it and say "Yep, that shouldn't be here". I don't play female Roe, but I really like their look and if I ever made a female character, I probably would pick that, does the low number of female roe players mean that shouldn't have been in the game as well? While on that, what makes you think male viera would get more players than male hrothgar? You would see a surge for a few weeks then it would "canabilize" the male miqote numbers.

    I get you want male viera, and hey, thats cool man, but don't throw shade just because its something you personally wouldn't play. As I stated from the start, I get why people want male viera, and more power to ya if they get added, but to me, they just would be another human with ears. One of the reason I switched from male miqote to Hrothgar was because I wanted to play a beast/animal race that was a bit larger.
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