Male Viera as a playable character! show your support

[Theodric]

Hrothgar are supposedly meant to be inspired by Ronso, though Ronso have a physique resembling a Highlander so the decision to have Hrothgar be inspired by Roegadyn is a little baffling. Equally, liberties were taken in regards to the Viera and they're by no means a straight up copy of their FFXII counterparts. Which makes the 'lore' argument rather flimsy. Almost everybody who clings to 'lore purity' as an argument, however, usually has an agenda laced in bias.

Furthermore the demand for Viera to be added as a playable race was only so large due to the desire for both genders to be added.

[Jybril]

Hrothgar are supposedly meant to be inspired by Ronso, though Ronso have a physique resembling a Highlander so the decision to have Hrothgar be inspired by Roegadyn is a little baffling. Equally, liberties were taken in regards to the Viera and they're by no means a straight up copy of their FFXII counterparts. Which makes the 'lore' argument rather flimsy. Almost everybody who clings to 'lore purity' as an argument, however, usually has an agenda laced in bias.

Furthermore the demand for Viera to be added as a playable race was only so large due to the desire for both genders to be added.

It should have been one or the other, perhaps at this point, the Ronso later in a different expansion.
Viera themselves have more presence in this game than the Ronso and with Fran's appearance in 4.0...
Coulda had both genders now and work on the other later.
I mean, who do we have? Runar, that GNB guy and that one dude you see like twice in MSQ in the Cryst.
They aren't very fleshed out at all. They don't even coincide with the Viera lol.
I literally don't know jack squat about that race at all LOL. Unless I'm missing something...
Viera have their whole own area...

[Vahlnir]

Hrothgar are supposedly meant to be inspired by Ronso, though Ronso have a physique resembling a Highlander so the decision to have Hrothgar be inspired by Roegadyn is a little baffling. Equally, liberties were taken in regards to the Viera and they're by no means a straight up copy of their FFXII counterparts. Which makes the 'lore' argument rather flimsy. Almost everybody who clings to 'lore purity' as an argument, however, usually has an agenda laced in bias.

Furthermore the demand for Viera to be added as a playable race was only so large due to the desire for both genders to be added.

Hrothgar in FF XIV look like Ronso from FF X for the most part, which is the point. Hrothgar, however, have a default hunch and their hands/feet are altered so that they can be used with most gear in the game. I believe Ronso in FF X all had horns. This is not the case in FF XIV, though we have that option. Their general physique is still the same except for what I mentioned already. So yeah, they are still largely based on their original design. They were just altered a bit. I wouldn't be surprised if they used at least some of the Roe male skeleton though. The legs are very, very Roe like.

[Defmetal]

Why are gender locked races the right thing?

because there aren't male viera in the games. like ff12. They don't fit in with the lore, or the world, and would be inappropriate for 14. Especially since the rest of the world of the 1st was destroyed

[Vahlnir]

because there aren't male viera in the games. like ff12. They don't fit in with the lore, or the world, and would be inappropriate for 14. Especially since the rest of the world of the 1st was destroyed

They exist in the lore though so why wouldn't they be appropriate? They could be brought into the game pretty easily if they had the resources or willingness to make it happen. They don't just exist in the First either, so...I'm not sure where you're getting your information from.

[Duskane]

because there aren't male viera in the games. like ff12. They don't fit in with the lore, or the world, and would be inappropriate for 14. Especially since the rest of the world of the 1st was destroyed

it doesnt mean much though its not like they dont exist and have been told in ShB that males are in the first
and its not like that even matters the player is not from the first

lore isnt stopping them from adding Male viera or female hroth

[Jybril]

because there aren't male viera in the games. like ff12. They don't fit in with the lore, or the world, and would be inappropriate for 14. Especially since the rest of the world of the 1st was destroyed

-Sigh- I get really sick of these posts...... -____________-
Male Miqote in this game are suppose to be a rare sight, yet like half the playerbase are them.
They said Male Viera were also a rare sight.

The rare men, however, are still held in high regard as Wood-warder, defenders of the jungle. They remain deeply solitary, except when they decide to take a ward, always a male, to train.

It is estimated that around 80% of Viera are born female. They begin to show sexual dimorphism at around the age of 13, which is when the males will be taken under the wings of older males to train in the ways of the Wood-warders.

https://finalfantasy.fandom.com/wiki...al_Fantasy_XIV

Also this isn't FF12 so there's that.

[Vahlnir]

it doesnt mean much though its not like they dont exist and have been told in ShB that males are in the first
and its not like thateven matters the player is not from the first

lore isnt stopping them from adding Male viera or female hroth

Yep. They are both confirmed to exist. We just haven't seen them.

[Sei_Konsetsu]

Yes and in practice they're Roegadyn with a cat mask. Huge innovation there. All they did is cannibalise Roegadyn numbers. The game did not "need" them in any sense and what they added was nothing much new. I'd like to see them perform well so that SE has an incentive to add male Viera. In essence, it was little more than a rushed attempt to grab these vaunted WoW refugees.

The lore defence is garbage, BTW. Viera males do exist in other settings and Matsuno had no issue with them being added. It isn't a "lore defence". It's a "SE didn't get round to adding them in XII, so they shouldn't be added in XIV" defence.

But if it doesn't bother you or (allegedly) the JP crowd, whatever. Seems more like that the JP crowd have made their views on the matter known and have moved on since. Not that they don't care.



It's simple: to the people who want them added, it is an issue.

As I said, Hrothgar are nothing special, were not necessary and could have been implemented in a dozen different ways. They're just Roegadyn with cat masks. Wow.

So, none of those points really disqualify male Viera.

Sure, they use a modified Roe body, but regardless of what you say, they are indeed very diffrent. They arent just Roe's with cat ears, but you can argue that they are Roe's with cat heads I suppose. The fact is, the head is so unique enough, that that alone makes it different. The only thing Male viera will bring is another humanoid head with ears, period.

[Lauront]

because there aren't male viera in the games. like ff12. They don't fit in with the lore, or the world, and would be inappropriate for 14. Especially since the rest of the world of the 1st was destroyed

What's the First got to do with anything? The Source is still there. Besides, there are male Viera in the Ivalice games. They are not sighted, which is a different thing.

Sure, they use a modified Roe body, but regardless of what you say, they are indeed very diffrent. They arent just Roe's with cat ears, but you can argue that they are Roe's with cat heads I suppose. The fact is, the head is so unique enough, that that alone makes it different. The only thing Male viera will bring is another humanoid head with ears, period.

You say it's unique enough. I don't think it is.

Whatever. You're not really going to convince me and their low % of active characters is all the proof I require that they're far from "necessary". Unique =/= good.

If you're just here to gripe about male Viera, I suggest you save your breath. It's not going to deter me or anyone else from asking for them to be added.