Labyrinth and Syrcus Tower...

[Flay_wind]

Why this again? People use the system daily for the rewards; if they queue for a particular raid, they aren't getting the rewards offered by using the Duty Roulette. Those that DO queue up for a particular instance are either:

A) Going through it the first time
B) Going for glamour

Driavna has made it clear in bringing up the points that the system was implemented so that ALL of the raids would be available, not just one or two, which in turn, was supposed to help with queue times for those in category A and B. If this was a single player game, you playing the game in a way that ideally fits YOUR needs would be fine. Unfortunately, this is not a single player game. There are others that do not enjoy the fact that their peers are rigging the system to their particular tastes, thereby forcing the system to register the same instances repeatedly, defeating the purpose of the roulette system.

Okay, i'll chime in. For example i have only Crystal Tower and Ivalice Raids unlocked. I only queue into Alliance Roulette on a 50-69 character i am currently leveling to max. Other 23 players that are queued with me into that particular Raid Roulette all funneled to Crystal Tower Raids only, because that's the only thing available to me personally. Do i cheat the system or not and how wrong is for me to do it?

[Suniva]

Okay, i'll chime in. For example i have only Crystal Tower and Ivalice Raids unlocked. I only queue into Alliance Roulette on a 50-69 character i am currently leveling to max. Other 23 players that are queued with me into that particular Raid Roulette all funneled to Crystal Tower Raids only, because that's the only thing available to me personally. Do i cheat the system or not and how wrong is for me to do it?

I'm sorry, but I really do not understand what you're trying to ask me here..Is it a pre made since you have 23 other people queue'd with you? How are you having to cheat the system? (How do you have Ivalice Raids unlocked if you're 69? They become available at 70) I'm sorry I don't understand your question, so I cannot really give you an answer.

[Flay_wind]

I'm sorry, but I really do not understand what you're trying to ask me here..Is it a pre made since you have 23 other people queue'd with you? How are you having to cheat the system? I'm sorry I don't understand your question, so I cannot really give you an answer.

What i meant is, basically, i skipped doing HW raids, as such they aren't even unlocked. And because of that the game can't put me anywhere else but ARR raids, even if my character is level 60+. And so other 23 players who queued for Alliance Roulette and got matched with me, get only ARR raids as a result, because that's the only raids I can access on a 50-69 job on my character.

[Suniva]

What i meant is, basically, i skipped doing HW raids, as such they aren't even unlocked. And because of that the game can't put me anywhere else but ARR raids, even if my character is level 60+. And so other 23 players who queued for Alliance Roulette and got matched with me, get only ARR raids as a result, because that's the only raids I can access on a 50-69 job on my character.

Ohh ! Okay ! Thank you, I understand now.

I honestly have never considered this point until you mentioned it, so thank you for the fresh perspective. Taking into consideration your particular case, I would say that if you want to put in the minimum effort using roulette, then you should get the minimum reward. Your scenario, in all honesty, further enforces the idea in my head that the roulette system should have tiered rewards. (My own perspective of course, and I'm sure some would disagree with me). I just feel that if you want to put in the minimum amount of effort, then you should get the minimum amount of reward, whereas if someone who uses roulette and gets a higher level raid, will get more of a reward because granted, they would have to put forth a little bit more effort to get past it.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not at all trying to say that I don't understand the perspective of those that drop their ilvl down, I do. Their arguments DO make sense, but on the other side, roulette IS roulette, which means random. The fact that people DO in fact drop down their ilvl BECAUSE they don't WANT to get a random raid, really does defeat the purpose of it being a roulette system to begin with, and I feel like that that is underhanded tactics.

I mean, I know this is a game and all, but if we step outside for a moment and consider this. The reason I feel the way I feel is because I put the situation in the following perspective:

In any other circumstance, if there was a roulette system and you found a way to bypass the random bit that makes it a functioning roulette to work constantly in your favor, then you would face some kind of consequence because your rigging the system to generate a favorable outcome for you. In any other instance, it's generally acknowledged as cheating, but here? Nah, it isn't and only because SE hasn't done anything to address it. I would like to see it addressed in some form, and I think I have been very open to suggestions thus far.

[Gemina]

Okay, i'll chime in. For example i have only Crystal Tower and Ivalice Raids unlocked. I only queue into Alliance Roulette on a 50-69 character i am currently leveling to max. Other 23 players that are queued with me into that particular Raid Roulette all funneled to Crystal Tower Raids only, because that's the only thing available to me personally. Do i cheat the system or not and how wrong is for me to do it?

Not wrong at all. Your question is the same as asking as a level 50-59 player if by queueing up for alliance roulette, are you cheating other players from the more recent raids. There are certain things we have to accept by using the roulette. We give up certain freedoms for the convenience of getting a full group together faster, but an exploit such as this one is not one of them.

It's comes down to your intent. Deliberately reducing your ilv to exclude yourself (and possibly everyone else) from higher level raids is cheating not only the system, but potentially 23 other players as well. In your case, you're not cheating anyone but I would recommend unlocking the HW alliance raids.