Tips for buying against Plot not yet available for purchase. 4.2 housing

[Kenky]

since housing is required for certain areas of the game

Hold the phone. Housing is required for certain areas of the game? I would assume you mean the Voyage system?

You know. The same Voyage System you can use at the Foundation Airship dock? (Not the Submarine one, so I'll concede that one)
The same system that, to my knowledge, is still there for all to use, regardless of FC affiliation?

Just curious. If it's not this system, then please provide context. Because that's the only one that jumps out to me.

Regardless. You guys probably need to get it through your head.

1) The Grandfathered players keep their stuff. SE is not going to touch them in any capacity because they are well within their right to keep it. Because they used the systems they had at the time.

2) There's not going to be two different types of housing. Nor do I believe they would strip out the housing system already in place to add a new one. They'll keep adding onto the Ward system, since it works.

3) Housing is not MEANT for everyone. Everyone has a chance to get a house and if you do, congrats. if you don't, then keep trying or settle for an apartment. That's what they are there for.

4) the "RNG timer" everyone seems to communally despise is actually working in your favor. Without it, you wouldn't see any open plots at all, because all the botters would snatch them up in seconds. Demanding it to be gone is actively shooting yourself in the foot.

As someone who had camped for months on end and finally got a house, I can tell you that it's possible. If you're getting far too annoyed to the point of "crying for a fix" on the forums.. Then take a step back. Cool off. Find something else to do and vent the frustration.

There'll always be more plots tomorrow. Always more chances. Can't much ask for more.

None of this "Well, other games do it better than ffxiv so that is clearly reason!" either. Some games certainly do things better than FFXIV. But plenty of games do things a LOT worse. If you're going to use something to this effect as your defense. Then go play that game and quit crying, since it's clear "That game" you so coincidentally refuse to give source or proof to is more your style.

[IntrovertAnt]

Hold the phone. Housing is required for certain areas of the game?

You also cannot cross pollinate crops (or whatever the term is) without a multi-crop plot, which can only be obtained with a house.

[SiierraRaine]

There was 3 (2 of 3 was around mine) smalls available last night on Lich in Goblet (probably due to auto demo). Told my FC and got 2 FC members as neigbours.

OP findings was interesting and good tips. My tip is if you can't get the plot you want, grab whatever you can and use the relocation at a time when your dream plot gets available.

So this works when you buy ANY plot in ANY residential location? I am trying to get a house in Lavender Beds after SE took mine because I didn't know about the need to enter house at least every 45 days (I'm a new af gamer. Only other game I play is Eve Online....wayyyy different).

I'm on Sargatanas so I wonder if it's more crowded than other servers and that makes it harder? I camped a plot for more than 10 hours last time and still didn't end up with it.

I would think with a bunch of insanely talented developers, that have made the 2nd most gorgeous game, with incredibly awesome dungeons and content, that they could sort out the housing issue. I don't understand why they can't make more housing districts in other places in the game. But game development is a part of IT that I don't get the joy of working in. I reckon I'll stick with GIS, Client Server, and Network. LOL!

[Edax]

I don't believe it would be a punishment. Is it a punishment when your armor needs upgrading when an expansion comes out and more levels are added? After all the hard work in raids spent on gear you now need to upgrade? I don't think so. I think limiting all accounts to one private and one FC house is a great idea. ( Accounts because ..alts!) Return their gil for the homes.

The game doesn't take your armor away so your example doesn't work. If the game took away my Deltascape armor sets even though I followed all the rules and spent months trying to earn the components, then I'd be extremely angry. So I would believe it would be a punishment if the game has to forcibly take away your work.

[Kenky]

You also cannot cross pollinate crops (or whatever the term is) without a multi-crop plot, which can only be obtained with a house.

Please post where cross-breeding plants is deemed a requirement? Or some other form of mandatory system that everyone MUST do? Because the only one I know of is the Onions for your chocobo. Which you don't actually need because your Chocobos general strength is tied to your stats. Not its own.

Regardless, what exactly is stopping you from joining an FC that has plots and getting permission to water / grow things there? Most (if not all) FCs have growing plots purely for that reason and I doubt many would deny you the ability to use it.

[Jojoya]

So this works when you buy ANY plot in ANY residential location? I am trying to get a house in Lavender Beds after SE took mine because I didn't know about the need to enter house at least every 45 days (I'm a new af gamer. Only other game I play is Eve Online....wayyyy different).

I'm on Sargatanas so I wonder if it's more crowded than other servers and that makes it harder? I camped a plot for more than 10 hours last time and still didn't end up with it.

I would think with a bunch of insanely talented developers, that have made the 2nd most gorgeous game, with incredibly awesome dungeons and content, that they could sort out the housing issue. I don't understand why they can't make more housing districts in other places in the game. But game development is a part of IT that I don't get the joy of working in. I reckon I'll stick with GIS, Client Server, and Network. LOL!

Are you referring to relocation when asking about any plot? If so, yes. Once you own a house, you can relocate to any available plot regardless of size or housing district if you have the gil to purchase the plot. More information about relocation can be found at https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...0dd62c3c50fc74

The extreme demand for houses is on the NA worlds. There are few houses available on NA worlds regardless of size of the player population. The JP worlds have plenty of houses available right now and so do some of the EU worlds.

The game is not designed so SE can implement a change to housing districts and wards on only a few select worlds that have greater demand. They have to implement the change on all worlds. Trying to meet demand on the NA worlds leaves empty wards on the rest, which is just as undesirable from both a player standpoint ("we want our housing neighborhoods to be active, not empty") and a business standpoint (an empty ward consumes server resources just like a full one even though it's not getting used).

They aren't unaware of the issue. They have told us they would be discussing it internally after Shadowbringers launched. But it could be a while before they have a solution and are ready to announce it to the player base.

[NanaWiloh]

I don't believe it would be a punishment. Is it a punishment when your armor needs upgrading when an expansion comes out and more levels are added? After all the hard work in raids spent on gear you now need to upgrade? I don't think so. I think limiting all accounts to one private and one FC house is a great idea. ( Accounts because ..alts!) Return their gil for the homes.

FC houses cant be restricted to one house per account. FC houses are tied to the FC not the purchaser. The ownership of a FC house does not work the same way a personal house does. Joe blow level 1 sprout who joined the game an hour ago, can be given permission to buy their FC a house.

Personal house purchase requirements:

Level 50+
Second Lt in your GC
MSQ progression must be at specified point


Free company house purchase requirement:

Have Free company rank 6
Be the leader of said FC or have the FC permission to purchase property.

[Casra]

Just spent 9 hours camping a house. Someone came up and bought it in two minute. That was 9 hours of spamming. This system is broken.

Yep the system is fubar, no reward for time spent, no advantage to putting in the time.

[Kenky]

Yep the system is fubar, no reward for time spent, no advantage to putting in the time.

As is expected and should be.

You shouldn't get "priority" or a better chance because you've been trying for longer. It's meant to be fair game for everyone. No advantages, no pay-to-win options (Excluding relocation.) and if you catch anyone botting, then report them, perhaps?

[Edax]

Yep the system is fubar, no reward for time spent, no advantage to putting in the time.

Those who spent the time, got houses back during the housing expansion of Feb 6th 2018. Where were these current house seekers at the time? Doing something else? Playing a different game? Well that's their punishment then for not putting in the time. A Johnny-come-lately is rightfully at a disadvantage.