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    Quote Originally Posted by Karja View Post
    But what would that mean in RPDS?
    If I apply BLMs RDPS at 95 percentile as RDPs for DNC and then use the same % decrease DNC currently has it would deal more RDPs than BLM at 50 percentile by nearly 500 dps.
    Another point is how good must a player be to currently achive 50% in a fight like E4S? And must a player be as good to do it on another Job e.g. is 50% for a DNC equally demanding thant 50% on BLM?
    Should this even matter?
    which is a big reason why i said to use more than one fight and also said "balance around" not "make every class perfectly equal at" if we take an average fight, and on this average fight a dancer (with all contributions) at 50% is 300 dps above blackmage and at 95% is 200 below that is perfectly fine, that would mean in an extremly movement heavy fight dancer would probably even pull ahead, whereas if there's a fight with absolutely minimal movement the 50% blackmage would most likely equal the dancer whereas at the high percentile it would pull away by 500 instead of 200 dps. Also, people tend to throw together the skill ceiling with the skill floor, balance for the upper end, and if one class has to hard a falloff below a certain percentile then try to raise the floor for that class


    Quote Originally Posted by HyoMinPark View Post
    This doesn’t happen anymore. Repertoire is fixed at a flat 40% now, so the proc rate never changes like it did in Stormblood.
    you missed my point there, Reportoire is fixed, but its still random. was i hyperbolic with a 65% procc rate ? yes, if you can get that in a 10 minute fight you should really start playing the lottery, but there will still by trys where you in actuality have a 35% procc rate and fights where 45% of all dots procc, my argument was simply that taking the absolute maximum is bad because what the absolute maximum shows are statistical anomalys, thats the try where a 99% bard suddenly gets 45-50% reportoire proccs and crits 70% of his apex arrows even though his crit rate is 40%

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    Quote Originally Posted by HyoMinPark View Post
    Then I apologize, but your phrasing made it sound far more like the Repertoire/DoT proc rate was manipulatable, as it was in Stormblood; not that your DoTs were proc-ing 65% of the time in a fight, or that your skills were crit-ing at 60/65/70+% as opposed to a more “normal” rate.
    letting my original clarification stay so it doesn't look like i talk to myself, but yea my wording was maybe not ideal, simply wanted to clarify that both "dumb luck" and "manipulation" (so the rest of the points i listed) are reasons why using the absolut max percentile is bad.
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    Last edited by Akiudo; 09-06-2019 at 10:48 PM.

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